Message from @james j
Discord ID: 785005967959130132
@DisenchantedTruth food for thought...
You do not owe me any evidence for anything. I was just not sure why you are saying these things and what they are based on.
@Corndog, you just advanced to level 7!
@DisenchantedTruth check your direct messaging from me
Kind of clear
Also I'm glad to hear that I'm living up to my moniker.
@Corndog which things? I was saying the starting point for this election or any election is not “prove this isn’t fraudulent” . The starting point is always it’s a valid election until proven other wise. That’s why there are challenges. There is no post election checking required. Trump took this opportunity to appeal but thus far has not provided anything significant.
To which you said “You assume there is a burden to prove the election non fraudulent.” and “I said no I didn’t why do you say that?” and here we are. So what do you want to do now? I don’t need evidence from you unless you want to show me something else. You have no more of a burden than the contrary point that it was a fraudulent election . My point in the middle is that we don’t know currently enough to make that call either way.
I have no burden at all not that I have more or less. I am at the neutral position of no fraud unless shown otherwise. @Corndog
You will never agree...
I agree with that.
Time to give up the fight and each believe what you believe.
We can agree that the burden is on the Trump team to prove fraud
I will defer to my previous attempts to move on from the conversation.
Do you accept or deny this
If you deny this then you don’t understand the dynamic of the election
When has a anyone had to prove they won
It’s either accepted or denied
You don’t prove that things went correctly
Possibilities that are fairly unlikely with one thread actor become highly likely with another.
Well I still want a direct answer if he understands where the burden of proof lies
It's over. He is trying to keep an open mind as best he can while he watches evidence that is shown. You, @james j choose to believe that evidence he finds valid isn't.
Therefore, you two will never meet in the middle.
Non-stop circular argument.
We know that. But that isn’t the question
It’s where the burden lies
I appreciate your pragmatic summary. Thank you.
The burden may not lie anywhere if Trump is able to throw enough doubt into the system to trigger a contingent election.
That’s prob his plan
At the end of the day the evidence never actually went through any rigorous fact finding procedure to validate it. Just press conferences (Because they didn’t even reach the level needed to be admissible in court)
And I’m using the word evidence loosely
It’s just people saying unverifiable things
Which is why it not useable evidence
Circus prop?
A show
For his base
With no substance
I am not here to change anyones mind but my own. The only burden I feel is that of finding the truth. Everything else is a bonus. 🙂
One world be hard-pressed to find more uncredible so-called witnesses.
It's almost like it's a troll.