Honestly we don't have the data to say that they didn't but I would say that they didn't I don't know.@james j

We just need to rethink voting or something I don't know this doesn't seem to be very transparent.

Venezuela made it possible. They started it. But it was effective. So people with money and power who want to control everything, said Let's try this. In slow methodical timely manner to remain undetected.

@busillis that’s been true forever

Is that the jist?

Dominion voting systems looks like a pretty Mickey mouse operation... Except the part where they charge all the money that's not very Mickey mouse.

Ttue

But...

No way for anyone to tell I mean even people that have to wear with all to be able to make some kind of informed decision don't have access to any actual data to make a decision from.

And that's what leads to a bunch of crazy ass theories. @james j

So Biden got 81 million legal votes? Really?

I mean I can't say that the election wasn't stolen but I can say damn it seems like it'd be rather difficult to actually pull off.

And I don't really have the information to actually make a informed analysis.

It still seems not so likely.

The point isn’t about if it is possible. The question is did it happens and the blatant undermining of democracy using known speculation that has existed for ever @busillis

Maybe you could do it in the machines if the original ballots were destroyed and you only had scan copies. Malware could theoretically manipulate the scan copies fairly easy.

There's no way to readily and easily check without just having faith. Yeah there doesn't seem to be any evidence.

That I've seen.

Though I've seen a lot of people taking what evidence there is and not drawing the same conclusion that I would draw like with the 68% ballot error rate.

It just means 68% of the ballots were sent for adjudication..

Thus means every election under this present standard would be in question

No evidence to prove election results. Y'all cool with that?

People are totally mis characterizing what it seems to indicate

People have known that these voting machines weren't worth a crap as far as security is concerned for a long time. Why wasn't something done before the election?

And just because the security isn't worth a crap doesn't mean they're hacked.

@vfc alcutta if you take the standard of proving a election true then every modern election would be illegitimate including Trump in 2016

What does this indicate? Our entire political system is corrupt. And no one cares. You're saying do something before election....

I don't know what the penalty for federal election fraud is but I'm sure it's not light if I was an adjudicator I wouldn't be lying on 2000 ballot should be like in prison for 10,000 years or something.

That's just me, I have better things to do than go to prison for 10,000 years

@busillis trump had four years to work out voter machine issues if he really believed it was a issue. All this info was available in 2010

The same will go when the Democrats are saying this next time and nothing will get fixed.

I agree should have done something.

Then why aren't you calling for the upending of this bull $h!t! Instead of saying trump lost. Republican s are bitter. The system helped my guy. Carry on. You should be furious!!!!

@vfc alcutta it’s about throwing a fit when you lose. Didn’t happen in 2016 regarding voting machines on both sides

@vfc alcutta everything being presented by the kraken team was common information in the public sphere back in 2010

https://www.dominionvoting.com/training/rtr/index.html Democracy Suite® EMS Results Tally & Reporting

Hence why it’s questionable when it’s only brought up now @vfc alcutta

Im not mad about losing. Im disgusted that half of our country doesn't care that our political representatives, our supreme court, our media, and law enforcement are bought by our enemies. Some of which are our neighbors. Just watch the birthplace of democracy give way to socialism. Communism. And sensorship.... you say nothing. Im disgusted.

https://www.dominionvoting.com/training/index.html ImageCast® Training Videos

If Joe Biden wins. If we the people actually elect a socialist ... the will of the people.... that is ok. Until then. Consider me part of the resistance

That’s a false dichotomy. That assumes that there was fraud at the level people say there was. Do you understand why it’s a false dichotomy? @vfc alcutta