Based on how they used to

it doesnt need to be since in 2020 you have enough counties using dominion to detect a difference

where the machines were it happened tho

And if there was a “dominion effect” a manual recount puts that to rest as you are bypassing the machine @Phil

i am not going to explain again the opportunities to insert votes...i am sure you know those

You mean mystery ballots right

its not consistent, its where the machines were, according to that site

Why would you need mystery ballots if the machines are switching votes

yes its like if i give you a drug and you get better i cant say the drug works

but if i give it to two groups, one with the drug and one without i can test for a difference statistically

You can’t say the drug alone unless you had a control

That assumes you have no way to verify the machine

Hand counting is that verification

the machines print replacement ballots for those that are adjudicated

so they dont even need to bring in paper ballots

if the adjudication rate is > 5% , then it would be perfectly possible

Those adjudicated ballots are adjudicated under supervision

They already did this in Nevada. Found a .05 error

thats one of the best ones ive seen, just the stats not some political views

Not enough to change a election

there are some witnesses claiming something to that effect. i.e. being left out

That’s a lie @Phil

Those were the off the street yelling mob watchers not the official watchers @Phil

Still no way to verify without identification.

hence why they conclude to audit the machines, not that it proves fraud

this particular analysis is very basic but useful

yes to restore faith in democracy, who doesnt want that

they can test the paper ballots to see which were printed and which were done by hand. this will help give the adjudication rate. if it is above state standards by a large amount they could argue the machines are untrustworthy and illegal.

have to watch this now, suggested at the bottom of the page... https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/kill-chain-the-cyber-war-on-americas-elections

They did that in GA twice . Do you think they counted adjudicated ballots twice @Phil

they dont need to count them twice

i think recounting fraudulent ballots is silly, there needs to be actual audits

if they have to adjudicate 10% of ballots there is no reason to use the machines

the point of the machines is to avoid human counting

The only way they can be fraudulent is if they are “mystery ballots” @Ghostdog which is a a claim with no support. The video was meant to allude to this before being investigated and shown to be legitimate ballots

Aggregate over counties by a small fraction of adjucated votes and small margin of error could contribute to credible total. Add in flood of unverified mail-in ballots and Dominion becomes moot. It does mean that future elections by popular vote should be decried foul and urgency to call/write congress and round the nation mass petition.

@Phil an adjudicated ballots is something the machine can’t read

So people read them instead

For audit

A hand count is people doing that to all ballots

@inwa but remember there are different voting systems, at least two other companies, and yet dominion is statistically different