Message from @TMDOMarie55
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> Yes. American's have been distrustful for many decades. Trumps initial campain of 2018 promised he would work on it. He submitted an Executive Order to deal with the distrust in 2018. This is the only way he can prove to the American People the Process is 1 vote for 1 person and the Process works.
@VirgininiaMary How'd he do on that?
@Zuluzeit anyone who supports abortion.
@TMDOMarie55 I think you can establish certain anti harm principles when you are not going off of a religious doctrine. Especially ones that get interpreted to justify anything. You can create moral systems that are more fine tuned and case dependent that most all religious texts.
@james j I have no idea what you just said
@TMDOMarie55 without a religious doctrine you can have more fine tuned morality on a case be case basis
> @Zuluzeit anyone who supports abortion.
@TMDOMarie55 Yeah, we don't need God in order to have a particular opinion about that though, right?
Or create a more robust moral framework @TMDOMarie55
@james j but if God doesn’t tell you the rules who makes them up?
@TMDOMarie55, you just advanced to level 2!
@VirgininiaMary That's about foreign interference. How did he do with making sure elections are free and fair, in your estimation?
@james j and put some shoe leather on that for me. Give me a practical example of a “more robust moral framework”. Sounds like moral relativism to me.
We The People.
We made up god , at the very least an interpretation of what god says. We have been making up moral laws since the beginning of religion. @TMDOMarie55
Nope
Not true
@TMDOMarie55 well for example some religious groups say not to eat pork. They say it’s immoral. Now that may have served a practical purpose at some point. However there is no reason to hold on to that view if all the issues that go along with eating pork are mitigated. Morally speaking
Presidents do not write Executive Orders and forget about them. You are seeing it play out. There has to be an Election to get the Kraken proven or disproven. That is why President Trump stated. "I may not win" . I trust He coined (or popularized) the cliche "Free and Fair Election"
@VirgininiaMary, you just advanced to level 1!
@SANCTIONED so how do you get “we the people to agree”? I say abortion is wrong but other’s say it is not. Who is right?
is jamesj trying to make me facepalm myself to death?
@james j Presuppositionalists are impervious to reasoning by definition. You are entering into own voluntary masochism.
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@VirgininiaMary he's always cried fraudulent elections. Same in 2016.
@Zuluzeit this person is presup? In that case you are right. Not worth it
its very simple
if you believe in a religion
and you believe the word or prophet of god himself
told you not to eat pork
you dont do it
@TMDOMarie55 you look at it and weigh the pros and cons and create a cogent argument
CISA does victory lap. Job well done, boys
the pros pork is tasty, the cons, god told you not to do it
@james j I’m not familiar with Islam so can’t speak to the religious doctrine that addresses eating pork. I would assume it’s in their religious texts which they believe come from God via Muhammad
so going reddit atheist mode and saying 'hurr well there was a reason back then but not now' doesnt work
Same as Judaism.
@TMDOMarie55 its literally in the quran, its a sin, not a hadith that can be interpereted
I believe that someone's going to send me a couple hundred kilos of gold, so far I'm still waiting.