right so , you arent religious

thats fine

Agreed

but you cant really talk about religion if you dont understand it

thinking @busillis got confused between two conversations.

if you have no concept of faith you cant understand a religious persons point of view

Those aren't mutually exclusive states.

No...

back to kicking Trump out of office

@ImNotGas you are almost right. As a Christian I believe God sent His only son, who was fully God and fully human to earth to die for ours sins.

Obviously. Inherent logic is equivalent to do no harm. Requires a conscience though

well you should be talking to the real god believers not the confused ones.

Anti trumpism is like its own religious delusion.

@TMDOMarie55 i'm a Sunni jihadist so

> but you cant really talk about religion if you dont understand it
@ImNotGas ...and absolutely I can

Would much rather a person believe in god and doubt their government than a person believe in government as god

Intuitive thoughts? @inwa

Who makes the determination?

You

no doubt

@ImNotGas yes we think the Bible is free from error.

The rebel in me wants to believe in a god just to refute your mockery.

me. because i cant be bothered. not one to sit for hours talking about mainstream faith.

@inwa I don’t think anyone has reverence, says is infallible or worships the government the way people do to god. The people tell the government how to shape society not the other way around. In religion god tells you what to do. Gods will vs the will of the people.

And you and all your minions started flapping your tiny hands all around 😂

@inwa its literally counterculture to be an "upstanding christian family oriented" person

Murica...as long as you're Christian

You're making up your own scripture?

Both faith and religion are not measurable. Their definitions are in the mind of the faith-filled and religious. The values are shared in the groups. Each connects to his own shared values. Even the Values are in the mind of the person yet like ontological characters the World can agree or disagree. We do not kill people for choosing to agree or disagree about Santa Claus

weird a country founded by christian settlers has a lot of people that want to be able to outwardly express their religion

Elected government are accountable to the people. People are accountable to a god. Historical ramifications that are not evident here unless you imply that people are worshiping their leaders which is false

What is it about Donald Trump that you so dislike? How does he actually differ from any of the other previous clowns?

@busillis the tv man told him to

@VirgininiaMary the definitions are not “in the minds...” they are in the religious text.

The great tell vision man that broadcast the visions down from the heavens.

> weird a country founded by christian settlers has a lot of people that want to be able to outwardly express their religion
@ImNotGas Not weird at all. Claiming victimhood by virtue of not being put on a pedestal when it's literally written in the constitution that people can say and do as they damned well please is weird.

What is this system you speak of where the people are in control when do we get to see that?

President Trump took the USA back to when any American could run for President and get elected. Not be a trained politician.

Why? Are you creating golden alters for the sacrificial lamb or something or implying such given current political atmosphere?

First what is your definition of the people that people that own all the equity in all the multinationals?

And disaster ensued... @VirgininiaMary