Message from @SoonMrWick

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2020-12-18 18:32:20 UTC  

Orange man Reality TV bad

2020-12-18 18:32:28 UTC  

No body knew what was this virus.. . What would u do keep it open let the bodies pile up in a hole . Or lock up and re group

2020-12-18 18:32:52 UTC  

Wasn't that hard to take that decision

2020-12-18 18:33:28 UTC  

*Person. Woman. Man. Camera. Tv.*

2020-12-18 18:34:08 UTC  

I still think the lock down was necessary..

2020-12-18 18:34:09 UTC  

That's not what I'm asking. I'm saying what's the excuse ***now***

2020-12-18 18:34:16 UTC  

For locking down

2020-12-18 18:34:44 UTC  

Now.. its hospital capacity.

2020-12-18 18:35:21 UTC  

Which hospitals have reached capacity and have they used any overflow. There's a national guard and a federal military.

2020-12-18 18:35:54 UTC  

If the hospital weren't at a high capacity but people were dying at a normal covid deaths rate. There will be no lockdown

2020-12-18 18:37:52 UTC  

people will die either as a socialeconomic consequence of trying to prevent covid or due to covid itself, depends which you think is the larger number. i suspect the former number is massively greater than the latter.

2020-12-18 18:37:52 UTC  

@Phil, you just advanced to level 18!

2020-12-18 18:39:02 UTC  

300,000 is nothing compared to the consequences for everyone for years to come

2020-12-18 18:39:10 UTC  

@SoonMrWick going back to work talk soon on break

2020-12-18 18:39:19 UTC  

Its also a very suspect number.

2020-12-18 18:39:35 UTC  

Or rather questioned.

2020-12-18 18:39:59 UTC  

even if it is 1m still < 0.3% of the population

2020-12-18 18:40:20 UTC  

excess deaths for the year are close to 400k

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/789562716061827092/WeeklyExcessDeaths.png

2020-12-18 18:40:43 UTC  

Excess deaths ***from***

2020-12-18 18:40:50 UTC  

all causes

2020-12-18 18:41:03 UTC  

Exactly

2020-12-18 18:41:43 UTC  

making the entire country 20% poorer due to lockdowns and lost businesses -> tens of millions will die

2020-12-18 18:41:52 UTC  

Correlation ≠ causation

2020-12-18 18:42:01 UTC  

at 300k of which are directly attributed to Covid ... question is about the rest, more than likely Covid is under-estimated

2020-12-18 18:43:06 UTC  

If you jumped off a bridge and tested positive of covid. You died of covid. *at least in Illinois*

2020-12-18 18:43:41 UTC  

i bet that includes people who die waiting for cancer treatment or cant get an operation on their heart because of covid priorities

2020-12-18 18:45:34 UTC  

Hope you don't feel like we're ganging up on you. You have a lot of replies but I appreciate your input

2020-12-18 18:45:34 UTC  

small percentage maybe ... lots of folks died in the early part of this pandemic probably of Covid but were not counted that way because there was no test ... also this virus kills in more ways than just pneumonia and breathing issues

2020-12-18 18:45:48 UTC  

no it's perfectly fine

2020-12-18 18:45:49 UTC  

if covid came from Spain, Spain would be outcast from the international community. because its china, where every business wants to get into that market, they dont do anything.

2020-12-18 18:46:08 UTC  

they have put the world into recession for 5 years

2020-12-18 18:46:35 UTC  

That's probably true.

2020-12-18 18:46:38 UTC  

and somehow trump gets the blame....

2020-12-18 18:47:02 UTC  

If its natural. China can't control it.

2020-12-18 18:47:05 UTC  

he should get the credit for lots of things like Operation Warp Speed

2020-12-18 18:47:11 UTC  

I still question it being natural

2020-12-18 18:47:17 UTC  

you had covid in USA since last November at least

2020-12-18 18:47:41 UTC  

the let it in the country for months without telling you, even corrupted the WHO not to say it had passed to humans

2020-12-18 18:48:13 UTC  

August of last year in China, October of last year in Italy ... but something happened to this virus in Dec in Wuhan, some mutation or something