ok so do you agree its possible to game the system?

game the system how?

in general, is the system open to abuse?

depends on what the abuse allegation is theres a whole lot of them that don't pass the sniff test

yeah but for fraud to exist you have to be open to the idea that it is open to abuse or it isnt.

Putting 1 ballot box in each county? Sure. Taking out suitcases of ballots and counting them? Hah 😄

ok so you are not convinced that the fraud could be large enough, there is some level of fraud but its small in relation to overall votes?

large scale fraud sends up red flags all over the place

its like the difference between being a cash register and taking a dollar or cleaning out your drawer

Its hard to decern what is regular voting irregularities from wide spread irregularities when evidence doesn't go before a court.. here in cali, we havr several instances of voting fraud on a small scale.. ie mayorship stuff like that. Would be nice to wade through the weeds and put 70 plus million concerns to resr..🤔

@slidingedge, you just advanced to level 1!

it's minuscule compared to overall vote.

sure, i agree.

buts lets think about how to win

in a normal election most states dont change from one to the other, for example CA and NY stays and so does KY and KA?

in reality, just a small number of states flip

do you agree?

yeah the swing state numbers are smaller but shift from time to time

ok so a small number of swing states flip

Heres the Michigan election depicted in a football game.
https://youtu.be/AOTGzNdQw1Q

At 13:34

so during a normal campaign, the candidates spend most their time in these swing states

yeah unless they are dumb as Hillary

in order to win you need to secure the swing states yes?

of which there is maybe 5-10, but certainly not 50

usually with a sprinkle of states you cant ignore if they go hard outside the swing states

Hillary is not dumb...

hence first observation (1) mass fraud is not a requirement to win

swing states = electoral votes

shes super dumb 😄

she's a .....

so all these claims there is no widespread fraud is irrelevant

when people say widespread they are talking about enough fraud to swing all the states Trump needs to win

not all 50 states

ok so lets look at that

this isnt some tossup 500 votes in florida he got crushed

a large proportion of the population centers in the major cities

irrelavant to the result. relevant to all americans who don't want the election process to be called into question.

$50 million