Message from @William Dinan

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2020-12-21 22:11:55 UTC  

And protect pedos

2020-12-21 22:12:16 UTC  

I agree that police unions are almost universally bad.

2020-12-21 22:12:26 UTC  

But I don't have a hyper-partisan opinion about it.

2020-12-21 22:12:30 UTC  

I don't think "ACAB".

2020-12-21 22:12:47 UTC  

Government entities shouldn’t have unions

2020-12-21 22:13:04 UTC  

Does that include teachers?

2020-12-21 22:13:15 UTC  

You're not for teachers unions?

2020-12-21 22:13:23 UTC  

No

2020-12-21 22:13:25 UTC  

@james j damn dude you walked right into that one.

2020-12-21 22:13:33 UTC  

What

2020-12-21 22:13:48 UTC  

Government enforcement

2020-12-21 22:13:54 UTC  

Military etc

2020-12-21 22:13:56 UTC  

Politicians

2020-12-21 22:13:57 UTC  

People with actual power over others

2020-12-21 22:13:58 UTC  

Judges

2020-12-21 22:14:13 UTC  

Schools have become like institutional facilities themselves.

2020-12-21 22:14:13 UTC  

Teachers have power over kids.

2020-12-21 22:14:32 UTC  

Kids are not adults

2020-12-21 22:14:39 UTC  

Point-by-Point; Police reform is not the duty of Federal Government. You wanna bitch about doors getting shut, look to local and state level representatives. Also, nowhere near as many people as have been portrayed by media have died by cops, and although I'm not a fan of the immunity cops have when "in the line of duty", a large amount of those incidents were found to be justified.

Next; Yes large protests can be or have been hijacked by certain elements that are out to do bad things. You can pick out those groups in the protests where it happens. However, when you "protest" and the intent immediately turns into vandalizing, burning, damaging, and destroying other's personal property (think Kenosha), there is no excuse nor is there certain elements hijacking the protest.

Last; What Covid rules? As far as constitutions are concerned, these mandates and edicts are unconstitutional and unenforceable. People not following said "basic rules" are well within their right to not follow them as they aren't legitimate. And the GOP blocking aid money? Have you read what was in those aid packages? So much garbage that had nothing to do with actually providing aid to people affected by Covid.

2020-12-21 22:14:40 UTC  

They don’t even have fully formed brains

2020-12-21 22:14:40 UTC  

Organisational Behavior still comes down to Individuals.

2020-12-21 22:15:36 UTC  

What the law declares as justified is very... in question, for most of us here. That's a non-argument.

2020-12-21 22:16:18 UTC  

That's true. Which is why there are methods to challenge those laws that justify what *we* would see as questionable.

2020-12-21 22:17:10 UTC  

Yeah, but you're saying the media is blowing it out of proportion when it's mostly just relative to opinion.

2020-12-21 22:17:38 UTC  

Blowing the cop killings out of proportion you mean?

2020-12-21 22:17:46 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 the constitution doesn’t make provisions for a pandemic. It’s a outdated document. Those protests were directed at local governments and federal provisions. Trump supports police unions which is in direct conflict to police reform. Thus shutting the door. Very poor leadership when it comes to a problem that needs to be addressed. We had similar instances under Obama. He made some provisions. He released the pressure valve and communicated that he would take some steps. He advocated for body cams. The tone trump set played a huge role in the riots

2020-12-21 22:17:55 UTC  

Sure, you can label it that way if you want.

2020-12-21 22:18:15 UTC  

I want some clarification before I continue. Reduce confusion and such'

2020-12-21 22:18:36 UTC  

California Gov. Gavin Newsom

2020-12-21 22:18:48 UTC  

quarantined

2020-12-21 22:18:54 UTC  

I don't think cops should be able to kick down your door and shoot you if you respond to someone busting down your door with a gun pointed at them.

2020-12-21 22:22:13 UTC  

The constitution isn't outdated first off because it presents and describes methods to alter it via amendments. Whether people and/or states take those steps falls onto their respective residents and is nowhere near indicative of the founding document as being outdated.
To be in favor of unions is not relative to preventing reform of the union or what the union represents. using my own experience with unions and my observations from my mom's time as a USW Steward, unions can be supported by members yet also undergo change that benefits everyone (not just their members). She had a direct hand in removing the corrupt union officials in her local to which everyone in the company benefited.

2020-12-21 22:22:18 UTC  

If it was only that simple.

2020-12-21 22:23:07 UTC  

Clearly I'm referring to no-knock warrants, and I want police to have more of a responsibility to the public that they have authority over.

2020-12-21 22:23:20 UTC  

They should be expected to perform above average in these situations.

2020-12-21 22:23:28 UTC  

It's exactly what they're trained to do.

2020-12-21 22:23:33 UTC  

You're referring to the raid incident where the suspect's girlfriend was shot and killed after the suspect, with a lawfully owned firearm, fired at intruders who turned out to be cops (can't remember the names)?

2020-12-21 22:23:52 UTC  

No, I'm referring to the comment I made specifically, and nothing else.

2020-12-21 22:24:59 UTC  

So Sorry. It was not Clear to me. I must have missed a previous Post of Yours putting that statement into context?

2020-12-21 22:25:34 UTC  

"Kicking in your door and shooting you if you respond thinking someone is breaking into your house"

2020-12-21 22:26:29 UTC  

@DeathRhodes666 also have you read the GOP bill v the democrats bill. The gop bill gave most of the money to corporations. The dem bill went directly to the people and small businesses. It had provisions for ppe and testing. It had money that went to non profits that were employing people and needed that money. You should read both bills me compare. I am aware of the conservative talking point. However like most things they say it is highly misleading and inaccurate.