Message from @james j
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This.
America isn’t run by conservatives.
Yeah , they start wars , (bush) create refugees. Start a drug war (create refugees) . Give China more power by listening to conservative donors that want outsourced cheap labor. Don’t care about long term things like the environment.
American government when saturated by conservatives, like right now and under bush , under Reagan @yetiCodes
Push deregulation
any trump supports here who are following the court cases and reading the case doucments if so message me please
The list goes on and on
@Scott McHarris I have
Are we also considering corporate Democrats conservative?
This one of those times where you’re going to list a few bad things republicans (not necessarily conservatives) have done, and I could list some equivalent things Dems (Generally Libs) have done
Literally everything you said Obama did. Not a conservative issue more like a politician issue.
Would you like to ask me another question you are going to provide the answer for?
Also don’t focus on republicans and democrats they are just the shell of values. Go to the values themselves. Conservatives values and liberal values @gaBe
@MyxnamesxjEff25 yes dealing with a war that landed in your lap and cleaning up bushes mess. He had to deal with a conservative mess
Because we all have the same values
No @SoonMrWick
But, that’s pointless because it is a symptom, not a cause.
@SoonMrWick ? Will you answer my question about be overstock guy. You said no one listens to him
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Republicans have done dumb things, so have Dems. The counter argument to your statement is that though one side may be more prominent for a period, as an entity both parties are represented and responsible.
Then why did you say no one listens to the over stock guy when trump opened the doors to the White House to listen to him @SoonMrWick
So, to say “Conservatives are the worst for the planet” is a false statement.
I dont speak on terms of republicans or democrats. Just liberal values vs conservative values @yetiCodes
James. Where did I say no one listens to him.
I asked, "do you think people are listening to him or something"
Those are not the same. Do I need to explain why or would you like to continue your own dialogue.
Okay, again, substitute conservative and lib for rep vs dem
The government is comprised of both.
It is much easier to hate a self identified Group. It takes Courage to Hate an Individual?
Conservatives are status quo anti progress. They are the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it “
Kind of people. That is bad for progress @yetiCodes no I’m not going to speak in Party terms. Republicans support gay marriage now. That is a liberal policy. It has nothing to do with being under the umbrella of a party
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@SoonMrWick why would you ask that question if not to cast doubt on how he is received amongst conservatives. Of course conservatives listen to him . Trump listens to him
@james j can you explain to me the main difference between conservative and liberal values? Is it more social ideals that differentiate them because they seem to be the same on the spending/ war-mongering front.
@gaBe, you just advanced to level 1!
You presume progress is alway beneficial.
@gaBe conservatives values are more insular , short sighted, intuitive , status quo centric. Liberal values are more inclusive to new ideas, they constantly want to fine tune current paradigms, they are willing to change paradigms for better results, they take a more holistic approach to society and how it should be governed
I want to respond, but I really am tired of wasting my time in the back in forth. When what it is that is being said will be perverted to fit a totally different argument. And then add five conservative this, conservatives that, conservatives all blah blah blah.
Drone strikes on American citizens, Syria, Lybia, and this shit health care plan. I am sure we could go back and forth all day about the fuck ups each administration had. I think it's the shitty old politicians that can see past their money bags to care what us normal folks have to go through. The lock downs are all the proof we need that these people are out of touch.
@MyxnamesxjEff25, you just advanced to level 4!
@yetiCodes people are better off today than in the 50s , more self determination
Subjective.
@MyxnamesxjEff25 again you are pointing to bush. That is bush created issues. There would be no drone strikes without bush
Conservatives are terrible at health care