@JD~Jordan the last one that I skipped around for through was so full of BS that it was unwatchable.

Actually... it is kinda "important" its bullshit but he is claiming that he is not "allowed to say FRAUD" which of course is not true. There simply was no fraud.

Like I said whatever he was doing in the last one I watch was just f****** shameful.

Well, no wide-spread fraud, we've already seen multiple people arrested for fraud.

He can say it, he can even plead it in court filings... but if he does that then he can get censored by the bar or the court

They're just taking advantage of people's overall ignorance.

It's horrifying

I agree, and both sides do this.

They've been doing it for a long time.

I know but what he's doing is really shameful cuz it seems like it's targeted at elderly people.

We have seen no more fraud than has existed forever... not enough to flip a township of 20 people much less a whole State

I agree I'm both sides do it.

No argument there.

Not according to Rudy.

LOL... well, yes even according to Rudy when his law license are on the line

I would choose a different words... They play to peoples biases and fears, which they help to form/amplify.

Still the most massive fraud and human history but now he's putting some sorted facts together and it's just wrong.

Morally wrong

Bias is arguably a form of ignorance.

But when he is in front of a camera he has been screaming fraud from dead dictators... in court where you can get held in contempt or even have your law license temporarily suspended for bringing frivilous law suits... he is alleging the type of fraud that would affect the outcome

I'm preaching to the choir not trying to change minds.

It just sounds slightly nicer.

it's terrible

I agree, ignorance has a more negative connotation, but it's true.

Ignorance just means things that you don't know or understand.

Or that was my intended definition

Not all ignorance/bias is bad, but it often leads to bad outcomes if left unchecked.

Yeah I agree it sounds bad

I see that argument, but if its truly ignorance its the willful type

But that's what's happening...

He still thinks Trump is going to pay him $20k a day... The Trump campaign still hasn't paid for rallies held in 2016.

lol

I don't know I think that if you have someone who's an attorney or a so-called expert that's telling you something that people are conditioned to believe them.

You don't go to your physician and my second guess a diagnosis or an attorney in second guess their strategy.

But that's what they're doing they're putting these people out here is so-called experts and they're just totally misrepresenting and lying.

Maybe there is a component of willfulness.

This is why doctors and lawyers have ethics rules.

@JD~Jordan And Trump doesn't have to worry about Rudy suing him for the money... He's seen his recent court performances.

Idk... Still it doesn't make the perpetrators any less culpable.

Very strict ones usually.

Yeah... but a particular set of letters behind your name does not mean you are incapable of missing your own set of biases