Message from @Maw
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And know how to wear it properly.
The mask idea is primarily to prevent spread, not protect the user (which it doesn't really do in most cases)
that won't be stopped _perfectly_
they would certainly be _reduced_
your pants won't stop pee
but I still want you to wear them
lol
Pretty sure that we know that viral load is important to disease severity.
until you show me a study that proves with _finality_ that masks are not effective _at all_ or are worse than wearing nothing, imma default to assuming that it is logical to wear them
But I am not sure how much we know about the vectors of typical infection rates.
If it's primarily small aerosolized particles (likely), or large ones that slowly float down to the ground (unlikely).
I'm not personally against masks, but I have a feeling I understand where Doc is coming from.
Forgive me if I'm interpreting it wrong, Doc.
But if we say 99% of infections are caused by aerosolized particles, masks aren't really going to help in the slightest.
I could be wrong, but aerosolized particles are practically free-moving between surgical masks and the like. I'm not sure how effectively they filter them.
I don't think that's true
water isn't affected by pants
but it is
airflow affects air around it
I would be extremely skeptical that a mask does not affect any sized particles
no matter how small
It'll affect larger particles for sure.
just google the studies about n95 masks and aerosolized particles
they talk about differences of .6% and a few percent
i.e it is bad when it is letting in 5% of particles
verses 100%
5% of particles could be the primarily-sized particles that lead to the most cases of infections.
no
they are not even talking about infections
just aerosolized particles
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069567v2.full.pdf I've seen this study which is likely saying the same thing you're saying.
But as it says in the study, the size of the particles is not known.
"Data on the particle size distribution for particulates measured by the PortaCountsare not available, however, ~90% of the particles detected were produced by the TSI Particle Generator as described above"
So we don't really know what size was filtered out, or if those of a certain size were filtered at a success rate of as you suggested, high efficacy.
@realz Large studies show that around 90% of spread outside families can be traced back to nightclubs, bars, restaurants and hotels.
fecal-oral.
So aerosolized.
from toilets, yes.