I was sure trump would get us into a war, NOT reduce it.

you have no argument zulu, you are just flaming and trolling

Zulu has been here since the beginning, I can assure you he's not a troll.

Bernie did not have a plan.

Thank you, Maw. I have intentionally not given a position on that because I am ambivalent about it.

Bernie did have a plan. It wasn't to my taste.

It's not an easy question, so I get that.

It's mildly authoritarian, and mildly libertarian in nature, it's a mixed bag.

It's a combination of recognition of my own ignorance and secondarily indifference. I could probably know more but consider it not as much of my business as it it would need to be for me to try.

I think everyone should have bodily autonomy as long as it doesn't harm other people, but I feel like that autonomy is not reasonably reached until adulthood.

Pretty much what maw said again.

We legislate in deference to immaturity all the time. I don't see that changing. This issue is newly widespread.

You have to set clear lines sometimes they cross over peoples ideals

Others' ideals seem to be the lesser consideration imo.

I don't think parents should be able to be autonomous for their kid's body when it's a permanent change, unless it's warranted medically.

Thats the line basically

I agree, intuitively. But if there are choices which must be made, I would defer to parents over the state.

And take a look around and tell me people dont take and take, give this they push it as far as possible.

I think that's an assumption in the narratives that extremists are pushing about other extremists.

I'm just saying sometimes it's possible that people want only the one thing that doesn't go your way. It's not always about dominating you.

It starts small, like you have free speech but you cant do this, now we constantly make more concessions to that. For fucks sakes if nikki minaj wants to go in public half naked and I call her a whore that borders hate speech now wtf she got hers I get mine, everyone go on there way thats how its supposed to work right ?

Public indecency has been a crime for a very long time.

Free speech only protects you from the government.

Not from consequence.

@evildood89 is it possible that you are exaggerating your personal oppression? Not saying you are or aren't...but is it possible?

Now I wouldnt speak so ill of a woman based purely on her clothes but seriously its not about having decency. Its about you should be able to respect the image you promote to your fans,

Like what are you being prevented from doing and by whom?

No bro literally go on facebook call a woman a dog, report back how long the ban takes

Call her anything.

Then make a fake female profile

Facebook isn't the government, though.

Ah, free speech meets free market. I like that one.

Go say whatever you want. See what happens, its because of the social climate, the bend the knee, its all gonna be gone soon trust.

Pick which one you don't want us to have. Until then, businesses will do what they like.

The same goes for rules of one's hearth. You can't just call someone's wife egregious things and feel like your protected to remain on the property.

Now if you were talking about facebook being a public space to express political opinions, I'd be more indifferent.

It's a long shot from your example though.

Facebook is a small example, of the biggest problem.

I believe freedom of speech gives us freedom of venue to exercise it. I'm booked Thursday but will be giving a lecture on it in your living room on Friday.

I think political opinion and expression should be protected.

I don't think personal discourse should be protected.