Message from @Doc

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2020-11-18 02:49:17 UTC  

You are just repeating your own slogans, it would seem.

2020-11-18 02:49:55 UTC  

if you feel rationality is necessary for hegelian dialectics, you are pretty much alone on that. Please do elaborate?

2020-11-18 02:50:11 UTC  

Hello

2020-11-18 02:50:16 UTC  

I am stating conceptual facts in the Harmony of the Spheres.

2020-11-18 02:50:26 UTC  

Hello and welcome @Apollo

2020-11-18 02:50:47 UTC  

@Whithers I see. Then discussing anything seems pointless.

2020-11-18 02:51:00 UTC  

For the dialectic to work, for either, the operator must be a rational and correctly informed person. Humans are neither.

2020-11-18 02:51:11 UTC  

I see where you would collide with academia now, but I suspect it isnt really about politics.

2020-11-18 02:51:22 UTC  

It is the same failing that Ayn Rand makes.

2020-11-18 02:51:22 UTC  

@Whithers why would it have to be rational?

2020-11-18 02:51:38 UTC  

Philosophy is just that, philosophy. There is no real concreteness to philosophy, in my honest opinion.

2020-11-18 02:51:44 UTC  

you still need to explain why rationality is needed for dialectics, or you will fail this course. 😄

2020-11-18 02:52:15 UTC  

@Maw It lies in its ability to predict.

2020-11-18 02:52:25 UTC  

Agreed on that point.

2020-11-18 02:52:40 UTC  

And its ability to create models which makes it possible to successfully influence the world around it.

2020-11-18 02:52:59 UTC  

There are philosophical systems that are more popular than others, agreed.

2020-11-18 02:53:06 UTC  

Because they are pre-Existentialists. They are fundamentally observing all arguments as rationally occurring - as reasoned.

2020-11-18 02:53:07 UTC  

Hegel, for instance, can be used to predict a lot of momentum in culture.

2020-11-18 02:54:18 UTC  

Or you can apply Nietzsche unto the 20th century, and beyond the last man.

2020-11-18 02:54:26 UTC  

That doesn't make it correct, only coincidental.

2020-11-18 02:54:48 UTC  

@Whithers You must explain first, why rationality is needed for dialectics.

2020-11-18 02:54:49 UTC  

😄

2020-11-18 02:55:16 UTC  

as dialectics are pr. definition a fluctuation in irrational behaviour.

2020-11-18 02:55:31 UTC  

If everyone were completely rational computers, I don't think philosophy would exist.

2020-11-18 02:55:40 UTC  

aspergers

2020-11-18 02:55:54 UTC  

They are pretty close to rational.

2020-11-18 02:56:15 UTC  

Problem is, the world isnt rational. That is why the brain calculates behaviour according to Baysian statistics.

2020-11-18 02:56:29 UTC  

It produces less prediction errors.

2020-11-18 02:56:39 UTC  

Because it is a comparative analyzing for syncretic accretion to an end point.

2020-11-18 02:57:17 UTC  

The myth of invariance, the fundamental golden calf of science.

2020-11-18 02:57:30 UTC  

and we therefore regard Aspergers syndrome (which are void of major Baysian properties) as reduced. Not enhanced.

2020-11-18 02:57:46 UTC  

@Whithers Still just repeating slogans.

2020-11-18 02:58:13 UTC  

but do carry on.

2020-11-18 02:58:21 UTC  

Have a nice evening!

2020-11-18 02:58:26 UTC  

Its 0400 here

2020-11-18 02:58:30 UTC  

No, I am not. which means you were not paying attention.

2020-11-18 02:58:31 UTC  

Have a good one Doc.

2020-11-18 02:58:46 UTC  

2100 here

2020-11-18 02:58:48 UTC  

@Whithers I will have to turn in my diploma, then.

2020-11-18 02:58:50 UTC  

Night.

2020-11-18 02:58:57 UTC  

I suppose you will.