"They dont want it enough."

[pindrop slience]

it was magnificent.

I mean that's addiction in a nutshell.

indeed. According to this model, they have a behavior affordance. What they dont want are the consequences.

Last I checked people don't have ethanol burners in their bodies that they require to survive. I don't think there is going to be any sort of biological basis for that sort of argument. Addiction is tough to combat, and is frequently (in)directly fatal.

But it's not a biological imperative.

@Doc I can't think of a single directly ad hominem attack from me in these chats.

Indeed. But this functions, not as neuromodular enteties, as is the orthodoxia, but according to the model in question, as affordances. Alcohol changes the entropy of the brain = less "psychological pain", and people who learn to approach this palliation ends up creating the affordence.

@Zuluzeit Indeed, you are elegant and indirect.

Not the worst qualities.

Still, when my mother used to say: "ok, then, I will just hang myself in the woods, and you geniuses can figure it out", she was pretty close. 😄

[I am playful and friendly as I type this. I appreciate your affluent linguistic ornamentisms.]

Sounds like your describing general life crutches and vices.

I can't help it if people infer something from what I've said which is informed by their knowledge of themselves. It's too much responsibility to pin on me.

I agree. I was being unreasonable.

You know, there is a saying. If you buy a bad horse and ask a Texan, "what do you think of my new horse" - he might tell you "its a piece of shit."

The russian will more commonly tell you: "the saddle looks very nice".

That's mostly because of cultural differences.

Americans are less scared of repercussions.

Russians grew up largely in a dictatorial environment.

Where you had to watch your words more carefully.

Or maybe it's just nicer to point out positive aspects instead of directly criticizing negatives and we're just jerks.

I think that sort of mindset is more prevalent in people that have to overcome far more rough circumstances.

Hence the comment on cultural differences caused by dictatorial environments.

Which is flowery-talk for me saying it's because of red communism.

While life experience and stress is mostly relative, it's not entirely relative.

Especially with broader access to information.

I do not disagree, in the context of the particular example. There must be more paths to that state because defaulting to compliments seems common in many countries to which I've been.

check and see if they all had a feudal background.

Because @Maw may be almost completely right.

The other reason, we can learn from dogs. I have been lucky enough to own Ovtcharkas. They never greet eachother face to face, but butt to butt.

This to avoid misunderstandings and unnecessary combat injuries.

The russians are a very hard people. With a pronounced sense of honor. If they also were prone to insults, there might very soon be few left.

I can't think of a single country that I have visited which wasn't feudal at some point, except where I live.

there you go

in norway, you can observe how the further away from copenhagen you come, the more outspoken people are.

400 years under danish rule taught them to shut up.

I didn't know Denmark ever ruled Norway. For real. Lol

A colony for 400 years.

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