Message from @Doc

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2020-11-19 14:30:17 UTC  

It's a compilation of various rulings across the states over the course of the US/British history with extensive citation.

2020-11-19 14:31:55 UTC  

Half of the pages in this are dedicated purely to citation.

2020-11-19 14:32:40 UTC  

But it is still not law. May work in Britain but not here. And institution can write and cite but until it is actually before a court it is just that a paper. Plus when did Georgetown become a state in the republic?

2020-11-19 14:32:40 UTC  

@mtpockets59, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-11-19 14:32:51 UTC  

What..?

2020-11-19 14:33:46 UTC  

Georgetown is a university in the US.

2020-11-19 14:34:21 UTC  

@Zuluzeit i absolutely agree with you on that point.

2020-11-19 14:35:18 UTC  

@Maw thats my point. It is not a state so it is nothing .

2020-11-19 14:35:26 UTC  

Uh, you could choke a dozen horses with all of the law in there. I know I ain't readin it.

2020-11-19 14:35:26 UTC  

@Zuluzeit, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-11-19 14:36:15 UTC  

@Zuluzeit amen. Only if i were a bored law student

2020-11-19 14:38:19 UTC  

@mtpockets59 You are aware that academic work in the legal area is highly relevant when understanding a judicial system?

2020-11-19 14:40:11 UTC  

A phD in "edpidemic precedence in federal legislation" would be rather relevant, both in itself, and because the judges might use it as a source for their ruling, yes?

2020-11-19 14:40:18 UTC  

@yes but that does not make it law

2020-11-19 14:40:42 UTC  

no, but it makes precedence.

2020-11-19 14:40:55 UTC  

and as far as I know, case law is prominent in the american system-

2020-11-19 14:40:55 UTC  

" might" @ is a pretty big word

2020-11-19 14:40:59 UTC  

Much more so than here.

2020-11-19 14:41:41 UTC  

"might" is a word you use when you dont think you know everything.

2020-11-19 14:42:21 UTC  

Precedent in context of the "Law". And you used it.

2020-11-19 14:42:48 UTC  

I have no idea what that points to.

2020-11-19 14:43:27 UTC  

So, unless it appears directly in legislature, it's not law? There will be a handful of very surprised participants in the judicial system.

2020-11-19 14:43:39 UTC  

@Doc sorry tried answering 2 issues at same time

2020-11-19 14:43:53 UTC  

If you go to google scholar, you will find an option called "case law". That is precedences, yes? American law students doing phDs, do so by studying case law, yes? Making their work as relevant as the actual law.

2020-11-19 14:44:52 UTC  

This is where your system differs massively from ours, where laws themselves are studied and interpreted by Nestors.

2020-11-19 14:45:02 UTC  

@Zuluzeit exactly since the legislature's of any state are the creators of law. It clearly in the u.s. constitution

2020-11-19 14:46:04 UTC  

I think we should have a lawyer to supervise this discussion. I am trying to think of one.

2020-11-19 14:46:12 UTC  

Lmao

2020-11-19 14:48:44 UTC  

@Doc clearly now i understand that you aren't from U.S. I thought you were. Because when in grade school you had a class called social studies and this was all explained there. But they have discontinued it today

2020-11-19 14:51:02 UTC  

I just don't get the part where you question what the law is, require citations, get spoon fed more law than any human being should be subjected to, and still object.

2020-11-19 14:51:10 UTC  

@Maw that deals with individuals not groups or whole States

2020-11-19 14:52:21 UTC  

@mtpockets59 I am not. So I stand corrected. The american legal system is not one of precedence?

2020-11-19 14:55:08 UTC  

Groups and states are composed of individuals.

2020-11-19 14:55:51 UTC  

Details

2020-11-19 14:57:40 UTC  

@Maw but "Laws" are not made specific individuals or groups . They are remedies for issues. By the legislature's that are elected by the people.

2020-11-19 14:58:11 UTC  

well, if The american legal system is not precedence based, is Miranda rights based on a law signed by president Miranda?

2020-11-19 14:58:43 UTC  

This is legislation. I'm so confused.

2020-11-19 14:59:07 UTC  

Miranda rights is legislation...is there a Miranda law?

2020-11-19 14:59:17 UTC  

I am confused now too.

2020-11-19 14:59:58 UTC  

I thought Miranda rights came from a court ruling and the academic understanding of the transfer-ability(?) of that ruling.