@JD~Jordan Being a slave seems to have its benefits. Most humans will submit in a hierarchy for this reason. Autonomy scares them.

might actually be beneficial to women, if society is at war and women are suppressed from joining in combat fewer of them get killed

Thus: probably.

Probably should take a poll with the women and see if they think it’s detrimental.

ok... wow. Not gonna waste my time further with that issue. Women get murdered for being raped in some places. And its accepted.

LGBT individuals get tossed into cages that are then lowered into a lake to drown.

But sure... that isn't detrimental at all

you muck be fucking joking

@JD~Jordan Note that the spartans killed everything that seemed weak, and they lasted longer than most empires.

This all depends on what you see as subjective "good":

@Doc I can’t tell if you are just very successful trolling JD or if you are serious. Lol

If you moral compass is so rusted as to not recognize those examples of APPROVED behavior as detrimental then I really do no see the point in discussing it further

@yetiCodes No, I am serious. Im just not normative. Something people are very not used to.

Okay, it’s an abrasive perspective. Lol

Its a ridiculous perspective

@JD~Jordan I observe most morals as a way to stabilize the present hierarchy.

and immoral

@JD~Jordan true. Beyond good and evil usually entails an instrumental view on morals.

Ooohhh morality is a fun talk.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WNBD2C2_nSs

I think you like to act like you are more intelligent and "enlightened" than others all the while making ridiculous statements

@JD~Jordan But you might be right. It is hard to have a discussion across cultural lines when the abyss between them is too deep. I agree.

Ok. Thanks for the chat @Doc

@JD~Jordan I will let you keep that view. It is fine with me. Have a nice day. 🙂

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As if you had a choice in the matter

@JD~Jordan you brought up the whole discussion of good for society versus good for the individual ... now you seem to unwilling to recognize that some times the two don't coincide ... again I'm naïve but not that naïve ... not saying I disagree with your morals just saying I understand there are instances where there are no good choices, just less bad ones

(Also Sprach Zarathustra)

Also what? 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

@Beth So spoke Zarathustra

(Nietzsche)

When you reach the bordes created by morals you experience massive pain and anger.

Ahhh I see

(if you are a reflecting person)

Not at all what I said. Sorry you misunderstood. I am more than happy to address most any issue.

However, when there is a fundamental conflict in basic facts such that "stoning women to death because they were raped" is not a real problem - then there is no basis to search for common ground.

Now, if you are telling me that stoning women to death because they were a victim of rape somehow benefits society then please do so.... I would love to hear it.

@JD~Jordan You want the argument that lead to the practice?

rephrase that for me no clue what you mean

Well it seems to be infidelity was a massive problem threatening societal structure when Mohammed dictated his book. Making women property was one way to deal with this.

Yeah, I think we can all agree rape and murder are reprehensible actions.

Doc, do you think that RAPE is a form of infidelity on the part of the woman that was raped? Fucking really?

“One way”. It was an option. Was it the best option for all parties? No.

@JD~Jordan I am explaining the etiology of sharia law. I am not in any shape or form explaining my personal views. Why would you confuse the two???

You are avoiding the issue