Ok, so are you capable of giving a straight answer?

How about this... instead of your opinion.... can you highlight any logical reasons that stoning women for being raped would benefit society?

@JD~Jordan, you just advanced to level 9!

@JD~Jordan I presented you with the logic leading up to that exact legislation, as I find it in the documents of those system. Did you not see that?

Insane testimony!

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you're confusing logical with moral ... there might be a logical reason for something that is immoral

Explain

No. Please just give me the reason that you believe might benefit a society by stoning rape victims to death. I see none. So by all means enlighten me

@JD~Jordan again, I have no normative opinion on any society. I can only refer you to how fundamentalist muslims argue this case.

From what I’ve seen the pendulum keeps swinging between moral and logical so it’s hard to pin down anything to discuss further.

another dodge

@JD~Jordan I have no belief connected to how a society should or should not be run. How is that so hard to understand?

Ive read the Koran...

So have I. And the Hadiths.

That seems like a cop-out. 🤔

It is

@yetiCodes how so?

Like a politician. 😂

total copout

May have misunderstood the testimony you were referring to.

it's easy to understand but hard to accept

@yetiCodes That is not correct. Politicians tell you what you want to hear. I am telling you what I found after a very painful and 30 year long walk.

Because even though I don’t live in that culture I can objectively assess the action of rape as a destructive action and can denounce that practice.

@yetiCodes well, then I am just more of a humanist than you, because what I see is that humans are destructive. I accept that.

perhaps it's the very fact that you don't live in that culture that you can do that

There we go! You answered the question.

See... you have been giving your beliefs and opinions all morning... until you are backed into a corner and then you say that my opinion isn't really important @Doc

I consider that intellectual dishonestly

@yetiCodes great!

@JD~Jordan I dont feel cornered at all. Note that I have shared observations, not opinions.

It is important to know the difference.

You have?

Hum... interesting

@JD~Jordan Yes, those are observations.

Well you said "in my opinion...."

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@Beth, you just advanced to level 14!

well, if you want to split hairs, you win. @JD~Jordan

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🤷🏻‍♂️ perk of being a neutral third party I guess.