I had Covid-19 in early December, still feeling the symptoms of itv

More people got their flu vaccine this year @eclair088

If a person has a rhinovirus, COVID-19, AND an influenza virus.... And your test only tests for COVID-19... Which virus is causing the symptoms?

And I got my flu vaccine

Well you need to look it up again. Go to the CDC website. You'll find all the numbers there. The worst seasonal flu in 40 years was just 3 years ago killed about 70,000 folks. Average seasonal flu death for the United States is around 35,000 or so. Covid-19 is the worst pandemic we've had in the United States since the Spanish flu 102 years ago. And that's on a per capita basis.

There are many flus out there. That is why people can get the flu vaccine and still come down with the flu. ... They were vaccinated against three flu strains, but a different strain got it

But bye y'all off to bed

It's still a large number. People still die FROM the flu and common cold.

No no. It is ALL covid! The Dems insist on it.

@eclair088 the point is that is why there are less flu deaths this year as compared to other years. People were more vigilant about their health in general plus they got the flu vaccine. Up till now we had no covid vaccine

James ^^^

Those who would be classified with the flu are likely being classified as COVID due to there being a virus specific test for it.

So what's your point? Add over 300,000 deaths to all the other causes of death this year and you get the highest number of excess deaths in something like a hundred years.

That would not account for it. Since to be of merit as an argument, people would have had to be more vigilant about their flu vax last year, not this year.

The respiratory illnesses look the same

@eclair088 again people get tested for both. You think they stopped screening for other diseases besides covid this year.

This is not a normal year. People of merit have to stay silent or be attacked

Except @meglide That isn't what happened.

Actually, yes. Because sheep. ... Mass hysteria.

No @eclair088 that’s not how any of this works

@eclair088 they didn’t stop testing people for other viral diseases

It's exactly what happened

No it isn't.

Fine go live in your fantasy world then

Eh... Appearances seem to be that people are more concerned about their health. However, how many are being hypochondriacs? ... And how many "health hygiene" actions actually are hygienic?

The problem this year, with everyone being hyperpolarized, is that the stupid questions are not being answered. or allowed to be asked.

I am simply not controlled by the MSM and Leftist liars.

Like I said go live in your fantasy world

The reality is the numbers are being misreported on purpose for profit.

I mean, I kinda stopped paying attention to the pandemic crap after the election crap started. ... Thank God, that shit was annoying as hell.

So I mean, there really is no wit or curiosity left in me. So I mean, you could be right. I don't really care. Just throwing my usual arguments out there when I think it is helpful.

But I mean, I am just enjoying my first night in the Discord. 🙂 I like y'all.

@eclair088 again flu is down because more people got vaccinated and more likely people are generally more vigilant. The flu death rate is relatively low and now even lower due to those factors. Covid has a higher cfr and and is more easily spread. Thus the cases and deaths.

Lockdowns caused most of those deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ For a virus that was global before the Chinese identified it in December of 2019, those curves always follow lockdowns and anxiety.

Especially after nov3rd. Lots of anxiety.

Yeah when someone you know is on a ventilator maybe you'll change your tune.

So I am supposed to change my mind when I have something emotional happen?

@eclair088 no lockdowns actually lowered traffic accidents , flu deaths. We still got 300k excess deaths total compared to years prior. People that otherwise would survive the flu did not survive covid. People with diabetes, heart disease etc

See that's the problem you won't believe the numbers you won't believe the reports from the hospitals so I guess it takes someone you know getting it to understand really what's going on

How about giving me an actual rational reason to change my mind instead of wishing death in my life?

Why does it matter how novel this thing appeared to be? Smallpox wasn't novel and yet it still killed people.

I am a mathemagician. I hate numbers.

I told you to go check the numbers at CDC

Those are statistical.

Our disagreement is not on numbers.