Message from @vague

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2019-08-09 21:39:48 UTC  

batteries are not charged at a specific voltage

2019-08-09 21:39:54 UTC  

it depends how discharged they are

2019-08-09 21:40:20 UTC  

the more discharged a battery is, the more current it wants to draw and it's limited by lowering the voltage

2019-08-09 21:40:34 UTC  

as it gets charged the voltage climbs to ~4.2V and current drops

2019-08-09 21:40:42 UTC  

yessss

2019-08-09 21:41:16 UTC  

it's still wrong of linus to say you're charging at 14.5V

2019-08-09 21:41:18 UTC  

you're not

2019-08-09 21:42:13 UTC  

its technically correct if you only consider the power going into the *phone* since thats how the quick charge standard works

2019-08-09 21:42:16 UTC  

let me look at the links you posted

2019-08-09 21:42:20 UTC  

the first one has nothing to do with charging

2019-08-09 21:42:25 UTC  

that's a datasheet for a quickcharge controller

2019-08-09 21:42:31 UTC  

it only negotiates power with a quickcharge charger

2019-08-09 21:42:37 UTC  

you could hook it up to fan for all it cares

2019-08-09 21:42:51 UTC  

i did see a variable powersupply build based on it or something like it

2019-08-09 21:43:27 UTC  

but yeah thats what makes it technically correct

2019-08-09 21:44:15 UTC  

the battery seees something different but the phone sees voltages according the quickcharge standard or whatever its using

2019-08-09 21:44:36 UTC  

the phone's charging port sees *

2019-08-09 21:46:30 UTC  

if you take apart the phone and plug it in and poke the charging port pin with a multimeter and it has successfully negotiated a higher voltage from the charger then the meter should show a higher voltage across the d+ and d- pins

2019-08-09 21:46:47 UTC  

the d+ and d- pins are data pins

2019-08-09 21:46:56 UTC  

wait yeah i forgot

2019-08-09 21:47:05 UTC  

the standard raises the vbus pin

2019-08-09 21:48:45 UTC  

d+ and d- never go higher than 3.3v

2019-08-09 21:52:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527849695020580866/609504390205669386/charge.PNG

2019-08-09 21:57:46 UTC  

Fuckin nerds

2019-08-09 21:59:07 UTC  

you can keep posting diagrams and shit about power delivery

2019-08-09 21:59:14 UTC  

but i'm not arguing with you on that

2019-08-09 21:59:18 UTC  

that's all correct

2019-08-09 22:00:39 UTC  

the point is that the phone actually gets 5 or 9 or 12 or 20 volts and then the battery does not, but the power is converted to amps and thats what the battery sees

2019-08-09 22:01:03 UTC  

you keep using words that make zero sense

2019-08-09 22:01:07 UTC  

power can't be converted to amps

2019-08-09 22:01:19 UTC  

power is a function of current and voltage

2019-08-09 22:01:32 UTC  

current is measured in amps my droooooog

2019-08-09 22:02:06 UTC  

im using them interchangeably because it doesnt matter

2019-08-09 22:02:56 UTC  

you literally cannot push amps

2019-08-09 22:02:59 UTC  

batteries don't see amps

2019-08-09 22:03:02 UTC  

they pull them as desired

2019-08-09 22:03:06 UTC  

you can only limit them

2019-08-09 22:03:37 UTC  

you could put a 200A power supply on your phone, it won't do shit

2019-08-09 22:05:47 UTC  

ok then damnit im going to let you prove it with sources. once your phone has 7.5w or 15w going into it how does the battery get extra power if you cant increase the voltage or current going to it

2019-08-09 22:06:28 UTC  

the phone cant just start radiating 10watts in heat and the battery magically charges faster based on nothing