Message from @Voortrekker
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u to niggas need to be stoped
@Bantukaner - thanks for the long read - I love spending my spare time reading... Hehe.. okay.. lets tackle your statements.. 1...Firstly you need to show me first that I need to be saved and in order to do that you still have to prove your Gods Existance.. It like saying hey I want to provide you a parachute even though you cannot show me that the plane is crashing.... 2... Uniting under religion - any dumb ass can tell you that If God existed and was able to Think logicaly then he would easily see that the outcome he desires and what is actually happening is two very different things.. Why doesnt god just Come out from hiding and say hey All you human dummies this is how it is and here I am forget all the books and this is me presenting myself to you. 3...Forced Rejection of belief .. Correlation does not equal causation.. There is no evidence to show that Stalin Murdered because of Religious Beliefs.. His motives , very little is known about his motives , what is known is he was extremely paranoid and was delusional about his countrymen.. Just because the people who died under stalin were christians does not mean it was because they were christians..
4... Consumerism and Materialism .. Since the dawn of mankind progress has always led to infighting and copying of innovation .. EG early humans invented the club and early humans quickly realized there was advantages to having a club over an enemy who did not have a club. which meant More Early humans wanted clubs so more were made.. This is just Human Nature at work .. Survival of the fittest so to speak.. If you have a nice car and it affords you a special standing within social ciicles that benifits you more than me then it would be natural for a person to want a better car
and so on and so forth
You are trying to change Human Nature
As for the Homosexuals and Trans people.. I really would like to see your sources .. and their credibility
because I dont know about you but there is a lot of dads out there who molest their children whilst still being straight .. and this has been ongoing since again ( the dawn of man)
There is a lot of mother out there who molest their boys whilst still being hetro
These people are the fringe Groups and have been around since the dawn of man
I dont see any evidence that it is mainly homosexuals and trans that do these things . and the ones who do commit these kind of crimes are also just the fringes of their community
Which brings us to Your sources stating that the Majority of sexual deviance is commited by Trans and Homosexuals (especially because they are trans and homosexuals)
All of which --- non of these statements gets me to GOD IS REAL
-You nig the reason why people do that is to save you because their religion tells them to convert non-believers
-Kek.He did come out of hiding about 2000 years ago but they crucified him.
-https://www.tfp.org/persecution-church-soviet-union-story-needs-told/
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-12521.html
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/anti.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20160303220215/http://icl.nd.edu/assets/84231/the_demographics_of_christian_martyrdom_todd_johnson.pdf
-Completely ignored what I wrote there nigga
@Bantukaner - Circular argument My religion tells me to save you thefore I must save you.. Atheist: why do you believe your religion - Christian because I dont like the world ..Atheist: Why do I need saving ? Because my Relgion.. Come on man surely you can see this problem???? Atheist: How do you know he came out of hiding? because my bible says he did.. Atheist : why do you believe your bible Christian : because i dont like the world
and did you just quote a Christian website to support your Stalin theory - lol
I also never said anything about Homosexuality being Genetic.. so Im not sure your point there..
You are still to provide why Homosexuality is immoral
@Oupoes pretty sure I quoted from many a website about Stalin
literally proved why homosexuality is immoral
Yet homosexuality can be found in all forms of nature
but we aren't animals are we?
Yes we are
no we aren't
cannibalism is also found in nature
should we be cannibals?
the Science does not support your theory that we are not animals
Lol so what if its in nature? The genetic line dies at that individual
appeal to nature fallacy
Okay so Voortrekker there is many mothers who are unable to have children - they clearly do not propogate the species thus by your std these moms and dads are immoral
lol
Cannibalism is immoral thus I dont support it
Dont put words in my mouth heathen, I said it is species/genetic line suicide from an evolutionary perspective
even if it is found in nature
u have no justification for ur morality lmao
How does A adult male human species that cannot propogate the species not be deemed as immoral by your std Voortrekker
It can be in nature it doesnt matter, their genes wont be passed on. Survival of the fittest.
oh and just bc someone *physically* cant have children doesnt mean that its immoral, where as homosexuals can they are just fucked up