4... Consumerism and Materialism .. Since the dawn of mankind progress has always led to infighting and copying of innovation .. EG early humans invented the club and early humans quickly realized there was advantages to having a club over an enemy who did not have a club. which meant More Early humans wanted clubs so more were made.. This is just Human Nature at work .. Survival of the fittest so to speak.. If you have a nice car and it affords you a special standing within social ciicles that benifits you more than me then it would be natural for a person to want a better car

and so on and so forth

You are trying to change Human Nature

As for the Homosexuals and Trans people.. I really would like to see your sources .. and their credibility

because I dont know about you but there is a lot of dads out there who molest their children whilst still being straight .. and this has been ongoing since again ( the dawn of man)

There is a lot of mother out there who molest their boys whilst still being hetro

These people are the fringe Groups and have been around since the dawn of man

I dont see any evidence that it is mainly homosexuals and trans that do these things . and the ones who do commit these kind of crimes are also just the fringes of their community

Which brings us to Your sources stating that the Majority of sexual deviance is commited by Trans and Homosexuals (especially because they are trans and homosexuals)

All of which --- non of these statements gets me to GOD IS REAL

-You nig the reason why people do that is to save you because their religion tells them to convert non-believers

-Kek.He did come out of hiding about 2000 years ago but they crucified him.

-https://www.tfp.org/persecution-church-soviet-union-story-needs-told/
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-12521.html
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/anti.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20160303220215/http://icl.nd.edu/assets/84231/the_demographics_of_christian_martyrdom_todd_johnson.pdf

-Completely ignored what I wrote there nigga

https://time.com/5662444/gay-gene-study/

@Bantukaner - Circular argument My religion tells me to save you thefore I must save you.. Atheist: why do you believe your religion - Christian because I dont like the world ..Atheist: Why do I need saving ? Because my Relgion.. Come on man surely you can see this problem???? Atheist: How do you know he came out of hiding? because my bible says he did.. Atheist : why do you believe your bible Christian : because i dont like the world

and did you just quote a Christian website to support your Stalin theory - lol

I also never said anything about Homosexuality being Genetic.. so Im not sure your point there..

You are still to provide why Homosexuality is immoral

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

@Oupoes pretty sure I quoted from many a website about Stalin

Homosexuality from a evolution perspective is species suicide

literally proved why homosexuality is immoral

Yet homosexuality can be found in all forms of nature

but we aren't animals are we?

Yes we are

no we aren't

cannibalism is also found in nature

should we be cannibals?

the Science does not support your theory that we are not animals

Lol so what if its in nature? The genetic line dies at that individual

appeal to nature fallacy

Okay so Voortrekker there is many mothers who are unable to have children - they clearly do not propogate the species thus by your std these moms and dads are immoral

lol

Cannibalism is immoral thus I dont support it

Dont put words in my mouth heathen, I said it is species/genetic line suicide from an evolutionary perspective

even if it is found in nature

u have no justification for ur morality lmao

How does A adult male human species that cannot propogate the species not be deemed as immoral by your std Voortrekker

It can be in nature it doesnt matter, their genes wont be passed on. Survival of the fittest.

oh and just bc someone *physically* cant have children doesnt mean that its immoral, where as homosexuals can they are just fucked up

Again where did I say it is imoral. Im saying it is stupid

You said that Homosexuality and trans does not propogate the species thus it is immoral... now you say that not being able to propogate the species is fine.. Why do you perform special pleading for Hetrosexuals