Ethiopians would straight up deny your premises.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

**Galatians 1:8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<8> But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! ```

I’m in this to win.

Souls for Jesus.

As with the other sacraments, references to Holy Baptism with water can be found in the Old Testament.

The deliverance of Noah and his family in the ark is regarded in 1 Peter 3: 20-21 as an "antitype of baptism" and a reference to future salvation. In Christian tradition, the Israelites' passage through the Red Sea–their deliverance from Egyptian captivity–is also understood as a reference to the deliverance that occurs through baptism with water.

The Mosaic Law strictly distinguishes between "clean" and "unclean". Water is one of the means used to bring about ritual purity. Persons who were unclean in a religious sense had to subject to a bath of purification (Leviticus 13-15).

Ezekiel 16: 9 mentions a washing with water and an anointing with oil, through which Jerusalem was received into a covenant of salvation. This can also be understood as a reference to Holy Baptism with water and Holy Sealing.

Likewise, the situation of the Aramaic commander Naaman can be related to baptism: at the instruction of the prophet Elisha, the leper washed himself by dipping his body seven times into the Jordan, and the disease abated (2 Kings 5: 1-14). This can be understood as a symbol for the washing away of original sin through baptism.

Yes I encourage you to win. Do all you can to be the best person possible.

I’m trying to win you to Christ. Not for my benefit. But yours.

I have nothing to gain, but perhaps a brother. That’s all.

Gaining a brother is MASSIVE

Brian posted some great passages on BAPTISM Steve

Every time someone excepts Christ there is a party in heaven

I dont think i want another brother. I have enough of those

I believe that

i dont think you have been invited to the PARTY yet Cat21 DO YOU WANT TO COME??

There is not a comparison between earthly brothers between heavenly. The difference is just as much.

My phone is almost dead otherwise i would

Exodus 15:7-15

**Exodus 15:7-15 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<7> In the greatness of your majesty you overthrew your adversaries; you sent out your fury, it consumed them like stubble. <8> At the blast of your nostrils the waters piled up, the floods stood up in a heap; the deeps congealed in the heart of the sea. <9> The enemy said, 'I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil, my desire shall have its fill of them. I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them.'<10> You blew with your wind, the sea covered them; they sank like lead in the mighty waters. <11> "Who is like you, O Lord, among the gods? Who is like you, majestic in holiness, awesome in splendor, doing wonders? <12> You stretched out your right hand, the earth swallowed them. <13> "In your steadfast love you led the people whom you redeemed; you guided them by your strength to your holy abode. <14> The peoples heard, they trembled; pangs seized the inhabitants of Philistia. <15> Then the chiefs of Edom were dismayed; trembling seized the leaders of Moab; all the inhabitants of Canaan melted away. ```

The ones in the water drowned. The evil soldiers of Egypt.

@Steve Angell Did you see the passages I located that discuss baptism in the OT?

The people were joyful at their death and thus their deliverance.

There are a number of examples brother of baptism in the OT

I can find more if you like?

Baptism comes up again in the story of the Flood (Genesis 6-9). Cain's children had practically ruined the world since "every thought of their hearts was evil every day of their lives." But God's Word, water, and the Holy Spirit (the breath of Life) brought about a regeneration and renewal of the world. Noah and his family, eight people in all, were saved from judgment by water, God's Word, and the Spirit.

Baptism comes up again at the time of the Exodus. When the Israelites were led through the waters of the Red Sea, St. Paul teaches us that this was a Baptism (1 Cor 10:1-2). He writes, “…our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.” Israel was saved from bondage through water, God's Word, and the Spirit (the cloud that went before and behind Israel was the presence of God). In the same way, God saves us from the Egypt of slavery to sin and death by leading us through the Red Sea of Baptism.

Clean and unclean. A woman was unclean because of her period. Everyone washed before going to the Temple daily. You washed a lot according to this law to get clean. Sort of like what we do when we shower. Nothing at all like baptism.

Evil was destroyed Steve.....and how was this done? By Baptism of Gods people, a washing away of sin and uncleanliness.

thats not completely true

steve

To claim there is no account of baptism in the OT is intellectually dishonest my friends.

Excuse me the people walked on dry land across the seabed. They did not get wet.

a woman wasnt unclean JUST because of her period

Steve, Spiritual Baptism

Yes she was.

Look at Noah and the flood

The water was merely representing what God does. When we turn to him, he cleanses us.

Look at Noah and the flood. Another example of Gods WORD, and spirit cleansing the world and the unrighteous by baptismal waters

Women were unclean most of the time.

(1 Cor 10:1-2). He writes, “…our ancestors were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea, and all of them were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.” Israel was saved from bondage through water, God's Word, and the Spirit (the cloud that went before and behind Israel was the presence of God). In the same way, God saves us from the Egypt of slavery to sin and death by leading us through the Red Sea of Baptism.

This seems to make it clear Steve