Message from @kyloren
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Its in your past. And forgiven
OK,. so we are on the same page, I just did not type it right.....I dont judge someone else for a sin I am currently doing which is what I meant
You could pass them on if they DO NOT repent
Misunderstanding I think is all Roche
I see.. ok. Gotcha
It sounded like you were saying that because you have committed adultery in the past and you see somebody in the present committing adultery even though you have been forgiven and have repented and I’m not committing it presently that you don’t have the right to say anything to your brother that you see committing adultery which is wrong
Go voice Roche, when I type I screw everything up.? Give me a call
No, not in the past....Currently committing. If it is a sin I am actively engaged in I have NO right to judge them as I would be a hypocrite. Sorry if I was unclear brother.
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At that point I would refer them to another elder
Who was not guilty
This is why I hate text, I tend to typo and not get my point across. Voice is best for me lol
If it’s a sin you’re actively engaged in you have no right to judge them I would agree you would be a hypocrite but instead of referring them to an elder I would hold his hand and go to the elder and you can make yourself as well as him if both of you are committing the offense
Valid point
Adultery and fornication ruins many familys and relationships and the kids that get in the way dont understand.. what has happened
Agreed, I sent you a direct message Roche
Temptation is around every corner.. sexual sin is alluring and way too easy to fall for
I agree I have to be on guard constantly
To protect myself
Why did God give us such temptation, if we were made in his image?
Luke 17:3 niv
**Luke 17:3 - New International Version (NIV)**
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<3> So watch yourselves."If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. ```
Matthew 18:15-17 cjb
**Matthew 15:15-17 - Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)**
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<15> Kefa said to him, "Explain the parable to us." <16> So he said, "Don't you understand even now? <17> Don't you see that anything that enters the mouth goes into the stomach and passes out into the latrine? ```
**Matthew 18:15-17 - Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)**
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<15> "Moreover, if your brother commits a sin against you, go and show him his fault — but privately, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother. <16> If he doesn't listen, take one or two others with you so that every accusation can be supported by the testimony of two or three witnesses. <17> If he refuses to hear them, tell the congregation; and if he refuses to listen even to the congregation, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax-collector. ```
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Matthew 18:18 kjv
**Matthew 18:18 - King James Version (KJV)**
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<18> Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. ```
This sounds just like the Talmud. The Talmud says do not believe in God believe in the Sanhedrin. The Church leaders. The Talmud claims they vote and their vote should God accept.
No I do not agree Church leaders can tell God bind this or bind that. They have no sayso at all to God. What they bind is meaningless to God. God will decide it and judge it. You stupid Church leaders have no right to say this.
Am I getting this wrong? If so please enlighten me.
Furthermore. It is just wrong to bring it to the congregation. Bring it to the leader. Hope the leader can straighten it out. Never bring it to the congregation. Unless the person keeps coming and causing contention. Then it is OK for the leader to announce to the congregation this is a troll and it is best to ignore this person.
Thankfully the Christians I know would never do as it says to do here.
I never heard a preacher say what I do is binding in heaven. Except when I was a Mormon. Why I left it. They seemed they felt superior to God.
However I was a Mormon for 58 years. They only started to do this in the last 20 years. Mild to major and I left.
Is this the answer to my question
I guess not
@Hamburger Guy We are what we are.
God is not able to do some things. God can not go presto changeo now you have no desire to sin. To think that is to deny the reality of what we see on a daily basis.
Why would we even be here if God could do that spell? We would not.
So God is not all powerful?
God is all powerful but it has limitations to reality. We are what we are. When created we desire to sin.
How can he be all power yet at the same time limited