Message from @the21cat
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yall antivaxers
killing your children
<:butthurt:507983822244151306> ❄
I'm not dead......but than again I don't have children 🤔
He may be butthurt but he's not wrong. Antivaxxers can easily be called stupid if they think essential oils are better preventatives than vaccinations. Yes, vaccines have issues and/or failures but they prevented a lot of illnesses that are now resurfacing due to antivaxxers (ex. measles, whooping cough, mumps)
Also, being antivax is a lot more dangerous than being vaccinated.
- antivaxxers are more likely to die of illnesses
- antivaxxers are more likely to contract illnesses and spread them to others
- antivaxxers endanger immunocompromised kids who can't be vaccinated
Vaccines aren't able to completely prevent illnesses but if you get it after being vaccinated, you're less likely to die from it.
If I'm ill why would I be with society?
I dunno, that's the question I wanna ask the anti vaxxers who send their unvaxxed kids to school and act all surprised when they get sick.
I barely get vaxxes and don't get sick. If I do I stay home
some antivax kids get sick and go to school anyway
Vaxx kids should be safe than
@Abe Lover You can pretend. Arguing can go on and on, but should this take place, just question what makes them believe in that. What creates that faith? That it's done by scientists?
If so, you can refute it as an appeal to authority. And further encourage them to examine the studies properly. And then prove that they only looked at one mechanism (in vitro) that is taught to be the cause, while not looking in case of more mechanisms and functionality in vivo.
the argument that is used to label is often from a collectivist orientation, so there are two perceptions relevant: collectivist perception and individualist perception.
What is true through collectivist perception is that societies adapt to changes. A truth that is true through the individualist perception is that one size does not fit everything.
Which applies to every aspect of our life. Therefore the individualization of a patient might be necessary
I try to get them to look into studies but they just say what they are taught. Send them an article gets dismissed. What citizen just posted is probably gonna get ignored.
Okay, I have one genuine question, why do you despise vaccines?
I despise something that is forced upon ppl that revolves around secrecy
Such as vaccines
Well, vaccines are less forced on you than seatbelts, plus, what secrecy are you talking about?
The ingredients of vaccines are being displayed.
how would i know what is secret
have you heard of mandatory vaccines
Like the craziness in New York where they require people who go to public schools to get vaccinated with the only exception being those with medical exemptions. That happened. Pretty scary
I watched the video. Its pretty terrible. Im convinced small children can get autism from vaccines. Im not totally convinced that older people can get autism from them though
@Robaticon you should watch this. It has descent evidence. One source but alot of evidence from that one source
YouTube videos are not evidence
I’m getting tired of seeing YouTube videos being presented as cold hard evidence
Give me a paper that’s peer reviewed and published and then we can start
vaccinations dont cause autism
change my mind
Vaccines are just weakened illness or virus, their purpose is to build resistance for that illness... right?
that's their intended purpose as is often told by whoever sells them and their supporters
however, they are quick to dismiss any unintended consequence, like severe side effects and the build-up of the toxic substances (aluminum nanoparticle and organic mercury)
Stating these substances are toxic and that there is no safe level doesn't automatically make you a person against vaccinations
That is scary when you realise we eat more.then that from food
not so fast
are you disregarding bioavailability?
@Robaticon vaccines are more forced upon than seatbelts
its a requirement to be exact, its like doing something to get the the free trial of your new life
That's gay
@mineyful peer reviewed is does not mean anything lol Scientists are human. Scientists have a vested interest in promoting their work, often for status and further research funding, although sometimes for direct financial gain. This can lead to selective reporting of results and occasionally, exaggeration. Peer review is not infallible: journal editors might favour positive findings and newsworthiness. Multiple, independent sources of evidence and replication are much more convincing.
that means you know where you can take your peer reviewed and stick it