Message from @Citizen Z

Discord ID: 602910487654694932


2019-07-21 00:09:15 UTC  

No trolling in this channel.
No more warnings

2019-07-21 00:09:27 UTC  

2019-07-21 18:49:43 UTC  

guess what citizen z

2019-07-21 18:49:51 UTC  

you are fecking stupid

2019-07-21 18:49:57 UTC  

you are all stupid

2019-07-21 18:50:06 UTC  

yall antivaxers

2019-07-21 18:50:13 UTC  

killing your children

2019-07-21 21:13:13 UTC  

<:butthurt:507983822244151306> ❄

2019-07-22 00:38:09 UTC  

I'm not dead......but than again I don't have children 🤔

2019-07-22 01:31:30 UTC  

He may be butthurt but he's not wrong. Antivaxxers can easily be called stupid if they think essential oils are better preventatives than vaccinations. Yes, vaccines have issues and/or failures but they prevented a lot of illnesses that are now resurfacing due to antivaxxers (ex. measles, whooping cough, mumps)

Also, being antivax is a lot more dangerous than being vaccinated.

- antivaxxers are more likely to die of illnesses
- antivaxxers are more likely to contract illnesses and spread them to others
- antivaxxers endanger immunocompromised kids who can't be vaccinated

Vaccines aren't able to completely prevent illnesses but if you get it after being vaccinated, you're less likely to die from it.

2019-07-22 02:54:15 UTC  

If I'm ill why would I be with society?

2019-07-22 04:32:50 UTC  

I dunno, that's the question I wanna ask the anti vaxxers who send their unvaxxed kids to school and act all surprised when they get sick.

2019-07-22 04:33:33 UTC  

I barely get vaxxes and don't get sick. If I do I stay home

2019-07-22 05:14:54 UTC  

some antivax kids get sick and go to school anyway

2019-07-22 07:36:58 UTC  

Vaxx kids should be safe than

2019-07-22 12:10:33 UTC  
2019-07-22 12:13:34 UTC  

@Abe Lover You can pretend. Arguing can go on and on, but should this take place, just question what makes them believe in that. What creates that faith? That it's done by scientists?
If so, you can refute it as an appeal to authority. And further encourage them to examine the studies properly. And then prove that they only looked at one mechanism (in vitro) that is taught to be the cause, while not looking in case of more mechanisms and functionality in vivo.

2019-07-22 12:16:11 UTC  

the argument that is used to label is often from a collectivist orientation, so there are two perceptions relevant: collectivist perception and individualist perception.
What is true through collectivist perception is that societies adapt to changes. A truth that is true through the individualist perception is that one size does not fit everything.
Which applies to every aspect of our life. Therefore the individualization of a patient might be necessary

2019-07-22 13:59:26 UTC  

I try to get them to look into studies but they just say what they are taught. Send them an article gets dismissed. What citizen just posted is probably gonna get ignored.

2019-07-22 17:10:00 UTC  

Okay, I have one genuine question, why do you despise vaccines?

2019-07-22 17:11:01 UTC  

I despise something that is forced upon ppl that revolves around secrecy

2019-07-22 17:11:20 UTC  

Such as vaccines

2019-07-22 17:14:58 UTC  

Well, vaccines are less forced on you than seatbelts, plus, what secrecy are you talking about?
The ingredients of vaccines are being displayed.

2019-07-22 20:08:11 UTC  

how would i know what is secret

2019-07-22 20:08:22 UTC  

have you heard of mandatory vaccines

2019-07-22 20:19:05 UTC  

Like the craziness in New York where they require people who go to public schools to get vaccinated with the only exception being those with medical exemptions. That happened. Pretty scary

2019-07-22 22:27:16 UTC  

I watched the video. Its pretty terrible. Im convinced small children can get autism from vaccines. Im not totally convinced that older people can get autism from them though

2019-07-22 22:28:47 UTC  

@Robaticon you should watch this. It has descent evidence. One source but alot of evidence from that one source

2019-07-23 05:57:13 UTC  

YouTube videos are not evidence

2019-07-23 05:57:30 UTC  

I’m getting tired of seeing YouTube videos being presented as cold hard evidence

2019-07-23 05:57:46 UTC  

Give me a paper that’s peer reviewed and published and then we can start

2019-07-23 09:24:15 UTC  

vaccinations dont cause autism

2019-07-23 09:24:22 UTC  

change my mind

2019-07-23 14:01:03 UTC  

Vaccines are just weakened illness or virus, their purpose is to build resistance for that illness... right?

2019-07-23 14:51:36 UTC  

that's their intended purpose as is often told by whoever sells them and their supporters

2019-07-23 14:53:21 UTC  

however, they are quick to dismiss any unintended consequence, like severe side effects and the build-up of the toxic substances (aluminum nanoparticle and organic mercury)
Stating these substances are toxic and that there is no safe level doesn't automatically make you a person against vaccinations

2019-07-23 15:51:03 UTC  

That is scary when you realise we eat more.then that from food

2019-07-23 16:11:21 UTC  

not so fast

2019-07-23 16:11:43 UTC  

are you disregarding bioavailability?

2019-07-23 17:06:33 UTC  

@Robaticon vaccines are more forced upon than seatbelts