hmm

are you saying that the sun is the same distance and size as the moon

That would take days because you have to consider moon phases and orbit speed relative to the earth

That’s not how it works

Also if the sun was the same size as the moon, the the earth wouldn't orbit around the sun. It would be torn and stretched between the sun and moon until both eventually collide.

That's not even taking into account other planets

@jeremy I gave that gravity debate a thought last night. Density is mass divided by volume, so in that sense density has something to do with gravity, but not without mass and volume. You say it's density and buoyancy that makes things drop and things try to find equilibrium because of electromagnetism right?

I'd say it's mass attracting mass because of gravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrZjJLOrLoQ&lc=z23gvjxycueftxxgz04t1aokg3yh11eysc0ien3txg3qbk0h00410.1557899740622797

I can't prove gravity to you right now, you can't prove that electromagnetism makes things fall, so it's a zero sum game

What did I walk into

One thing I still wonder is does size play a role in flat earth "gravity"

@ipmancombo Just talking about gravity, continuation to yesterdays discussion

But Jeremy is not here so a monologue 😂

i dont say its density and bouyancy only

could it be static electricity ? their is 100 volts int he air per meter

hmmm

i doubt it because

some things are without electric charge and shown to have gravitational field

The weight of an object is defined as the force of gravity on the object and may be calculated as the mass times the acceleration of gravity, w = mg. Since the weight is a force, its SI unit is the newton.

idk

so a helium filled balloon has no mass becuase it weighs nothing

?

a helium ballon put it on a scale it weighs nothing

it has zero weight

whats the formula for mass

https://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Mass

first step is find density

so you cant find desnity without knowing mass but u cant find mass without knowing the density. hmmmmmm

Helium still has weight, a filled helium tank weighs more than an empty one

Weight is the downward force, but it becomes slightly harder to measure if there's a big upward force acting on it as well

how about an empty ballon and a balloon filled with helium

Well the balloon filled with helium has both the mass of the balloon and helium

but it weighs nothing

But filling it with helium means that the upward force of buoyancy acts on it too, so it becomes hard to measure the weight

It still has weight acting downwards, there's just a bigger force pushing it up

impossible to measure the weight ?

Well a scale just measures the force pushing down on it, if there's another force present then you won't get a good measurement

so u cant measure it ?

There's other ways

Like putting a load of it into a gas bottle and measuring the change in weight of the bottle