Message from @Flubber

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2019-05-29 03:56:26 UTC  

You’re claiming space travel is safe, when it’s not even feasible the medium of space travel is possible.

2019-05-29 03:56:36 UTC  

@Derek Nelson circular tautological argument

2019-05-29 03:56:47 UTC  

Space travle is possible

2019-05-29 03:56:59 UTC  

Just dangerously dangerous

2019-05-29 03:57:21 UTC  

Because it relies on so much not going wrong

2019-05-29 03:57:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/583141904661872650/image0.jpg

2019-05-29 03:58:05 UTC  

It’s not circular reasoning when you can’t prove the initial claim in the first place.

2019-05-29 03:58:08 UTC  

Yeah i know it isnt thrust we discussed this

2019-05-29 03:58:28 UTC  

it carries its own mass and ejects it

2019-05-29 03:58:33 UTC  

like the prop ejects water or air

2019-05-29 03:59:15 UTC  

You’re missing the point. A boat can push off Water. What is a rocket using to push off of in actuality?

2019-05-29 03:59:18 UTC  

It has velocity when it leaves orbit and ejects mass in the form of gas. Which due to conservation of mass says velocity increases

2019-05-29 03:59:19 UTC  

And don’t say itself.

2019-05-29 03:59:25 UTC  

Thus acceleration

2019-05-29 03:59:34 UTC  

Its not

2019-05-29 03:59:34 UTC  

If that were true, we could reproduce that here on earth. But we can’t.

2019-05-29 03:59:41 UTC  

Its literally dropping

2019-05-29 03:59:45 UTC  

Mass

2019-05-29 03:59:53 UTC  

No thrust

2019-05-29 03:59:56 UTC  

@Derek Nelson if you fire a gun, does the recoil have anything to do with air aroudn you?

2019-05-29 04:00:29 UTC  

Cats, you’re repeating the claim.

2019-05-29 04:00:48 UTC  

There has not been any verifiable way to prove if that claim is possible.

2019-05-29 04:01:17 UTC  

No it doesn't. Its because the bullet leaves with velocity and the velocities times massea need to cancel to create zero

2019-05-29 04:01:27 UTC  

@Derek Nelson if you fire a gun, does the recoil have anything to do with air aroudn you?

2019-05-29 04:01:29 UTC  

verified

2019-05-29 04:02:02 UTC  

I’m not even sure what you’re asking, Flub.

2019-05-29 04:02:10 UTC  

What point are you making?

2019-05-29 04:02:11 UTC  

I think he has a point but i wouldnt be using a gun example

2019-05-29 04:02:29 UTC  

Its not from air that it gets thrust

2019-05-29 04:02:35 UTC  

@Derek Nelson i'm illustrating how you don't need air to push off of, by way of a gun, something you're familiar with

2019-05-29 04:02:39 UTC  

Its from shooting a bullet

2019-05-29 04:03:17 UTC  

The bullet has air in it. When expended, it explodes out of the casing, and has more air to burn to propel it.

2019-05-29 04:03:37 UTC  

is that any different from a rocket engine?

2019-05-29 04:03:42 UTC  

it has fuel and oxidizer just like a bullet

2019-05-29 04:03:46 UTC  

Yeah but thats system thats part of the gun

2019-05-29 04:04:01 UTC  

It requires energy imput

2019-05-29 04:04:14 UTC  

But not air to push off to move

2019-05-29 04:04:29 UTC  

what is the gun pushing off of to recoil

2019-05-29 04:04:45 UTC  

NASA claims to have had that technology back when they ‘landed on the moon.’ But they destroyed it. However, the problem now that mainstream scientists are arguing, is that the moon is actually in earth’ atmosphere.

2019-05-29 04:04:46 UTC  

not the air