Yea out of hpw many

only 2000 have made it to the top

something like that

You’re claiming space travel is safe, when it’s not even feasible the medium of space travel is possible.

@Derek Nelson circular tautological argument

Space travle is possible

https://flatearth.ws/circular-reasoning

Just dangerously dangerous

Because it relies on so much not going wrong

It’s not circular reasoning when you can’t prove the initial claim in the first place.

Yeah i know it isnt thrust we discussed this

it carries its own mass and ejects it

like the prop ejects water or air

You’re missing the point. A boat can push off Water. What is a rocket using to push off of in actuality?

It has velocity when it leaves orbit and ejects mass in the form of gas. Which due to conservation of mass says velocity increases

And don’t say itself.

Thus acceleration

Its not

If that were true, we could reproduce that here on earth. But we can’t.

Its literally dropping

Mass

No thrust

@Derek Nelson if you fire a gun, does the recoil have anything to do with air aroudn you?

Cats, you’re repeating the claim.

There has not been any verifiable way to prove if that claim is possible.

No it doesn't. Its because the bullet leaves with velocity and the velocities times massea need to cancel to create zero

@Derek Nelson if you fire a gun, does the recoil have anything to do with air aroudn you?

verified

I’m not even sure what you’re asking, Flub.

What point are you making?

I think he has a point but i wouldnt be using a gun example

Its not from air that it gets thrust

@Derek Nelson i'm illustrating how you don't need air to push off of, by way of a gun, something you're familiar with

Its from shooting a bullet

The bullet has air in it. When expended, it explodes out of the casing, and has more air to burn to propel it.

is that any different from a rocket engine?

it has fuel and oxidizer just like a bullet

Yeah but thats system thats part of the gun

It requires energy imput

But not air to push off to move