Message from @Derek Nelson

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2019-05-30 23:50:44 UTC  

Period.

2019-05-30 23:51:07 UTC  

yeah, I don't think there are any at all

2019-05-30 23:51:53 UTC  

There’s literally only one verse in the entirety of scripture where globers say - Look, that says sphere. When it doesn’t.

2019-05-30 23:52:00 UTC  

Isaiah 40:22

2019-05-30 23:52:01 UTC  

**Isaiah 40:22 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<22> It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: ```

2019-05-30 23:52:26 UTC  

oh, I didn't even know about that one.

2019-05-30 23:52:36 UTC  

The circle of the earth, doesn’t even seem to be describing the earth itself, but a surface above it.

2019-05-30 23:53:09 UTC  

I suppose this all comes down to interpretation of the bible.

2019-05-30 23:53:36 UTC  

Sungenis certainly interprets a geocentric universe.

2019-05-30 23:54:11 UTC  

If it were describing a ball, that’s the word that would have been translated.

2019-05-30 23:54:16 UTC  

Isaiah 22:18

2019-05-30 23:54:17 UTC  

**Isaiah 22:18 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<18> He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. ```

2019-05-30 23:54:40 UTC  

I’m talking, slippery.

2019-05-30 23:55:17 UTC  

So, point being, a circle is not a ball.

2019-05-30 23:55:53 UTC  

agreed. but again, it depends on how people interpret the bible.

2019-05-30 23:56:09 UTC  

Other than that, there isn’t anything in scripture that would define earth anything other than level, and stationary.

2019-05-30 23:56:25 UTC  

I suspect that if it weren't for the two celestial poles, Sungenis would probably be a globe earther as well.

2019-05-30 23:56:40 UTC  

And every time I hear someone say ‘that’s your interpretation’, is literally being dishonest about the word of God.

2019-05-30 23:57:08 UTC  

Sungenis is a globe earther. Albeit a geocentric one.

2019-05-30 23:57:29 UTC  

I'm not super knowledgeable on bible verses, so I can't really comment on it.

2019-05-30 23:58:42 UTC  

I know a few things. And I follow what’s called sola scriptura. Proving scripture with scripture. It’s no contest. A flat stationary earth over a globe, wins hands down 100%.

2019-05-30 23:58:55 UTC  

I followed Sungenis and Delano for a while on social media as the Principle was released. Interesting guys.

2019-05-30 23:59:21 UTC  

hmm, fair enough. it doesn't do much for me in the way of hard evidence, though.

2019-05-31 00:01:12 UTC  

How Sungenis could go from Catholic to Protestant back to Catholic in the Christian world, is rather crazy. The only way that makes sense, is if he were never a Protestant. Because scripture is absolutely clear about not mixing traditions of men over God’s word. Catholics do it on a habitual basis.

2019-05-31 00:01:39 UTC  

But, I don’t want to go down that route. Just stating.

2019-05-31 00:02:11 UTC  

He's got some shady history in general

2019-05-31 00:02:20 UTC  

Agreed.

2019-06-02 20:10:42 UTC  

Hello.

2019-06-02 20:11:47 UTC  

I've only got one question, if I might have a moment of your time; is there any discernible proof of this "Ice Wall"?

2019-06-02 20:12:42 UTC  

@Camel lol you're kidding me, right 😆

2019-06-02 20:13:05 UTC  

--even Greenland has "ice walls" ((they're really ice SHELVES) , not walls

2019-06-02 20:13:19 UTC  

--ice shelves are the >> COASTLINE OF ANTARCTICA

2019-06-02 20:13:27 UTC  

-- you still around??.. @Camel

2019-06-02 20:14:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/584837155805855748/Flat_EArth_-_ice_shelf_coastline_-_boat_and_people_-_etc.png

2019-06-02 20:14:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/584837172922810377/Flat_Earth_-_ice_shelf_Antarctica_ice_shelf_coastline_example_img_2368.jpg

2019-06-02 20:14:17 UTC  

Yes I'm still here.

2019-06-02 20:15:04 UTC  

But this is antarctica.

2019-06-02 20:15:55 UTC  

--huh? .. OF COURSE it is (Antarctica)?!! ..what hte heck did you think we meant?...