according to the globe earth model, it is indeed 100% explained.

In theory. But when they can’t prove earth movement, that’s like missing concrete in the foundation of a house.

The above gif I posted was a simulation I did in After Effects of a uniform sky and a spinning earth with the camera locked to it.

https://youtu.be/60lGDvOuw9M

That’s a 4 minute video.

Just look at it.

I'll check it out.

Some stars are reflected in water, but not others.

a reflection doesn't explain its movement, though.

it's the movement that's important.

I gotta head home, the wife's texting me lol. I'll jump back on soon as I can. and I'll watch the vid.

It could explain that what we are seeing above us, is a series of circuits in a contained system of it’s own, where the shape of it can reflect it’s operation above, but not down here on earth.

This reasoning is pure speculation, though. on the globe earth, it's completely accounted for.

Either way, the globe model whether heliocentric or geocentric, is absolutely against what God of the Bible says.

If a person is purposely trying to ignore him, and superimpose man’s intelligence above his, it doesn’t matter what I say.

well, that's a different topic for sure. and Sungenis is devoutly Christian and he still believes it's a globe.

And he can’t cite any biblical sources that earth is a sphere of any kind.

Period.

yeah, I don't think there are any at all

There’s literally only one verse in the entirety of scripture where globers say - Look, that says sphere. When it doesn’t.

Isaiah 40:22

**Isaiah 40:22 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<22> It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: ```

oh, I didn't even know about that one.

The circle of the earth, doesn’t even seem to be describing the earth itself, but a surface above it.

I suppose this all comes down to interpretation of the bible.

Sungenis certainly interprets a geocentric universe.

If it were describing a ball, that’s the word that would have been translated.

Isaiah 22:18

**Isaiah 22:18 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<18> He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. ```

I’m talking, slippery.

So, point being, a circle is not a ball.

agreed. but again, it depends on how people interpret the bible.

Other than that, there isn’t anything in scripture that would define earth anything other than level, and stationary.

I suspect that if it weren't for the two celestial poles, Sungenis would probably be a globe earther as well.

And every time I hear someone say ‘that’s your interpretation’, is literally being dishonest about the word of God.

Sungenis is a globe earther. Albeit a geocentric one.

I'm not super knowledgeable on bible verses, so I can't really comment on it.

I know a few things. And I follow what’s called sola scriptura. Proving scripture with scripture. It’s no contest. A flat stationary earth over a globe, wins hands down 100%.

I followed Sungenis and Delano for a while on social media as the Principle was released. Interesting guys.

hmm, fair enough. it doesn't do much for me in the way of hard evidence, though.

How Sungenis could go from Catholic to Protestant back to Catholic in the Christian world, is rather crazy. The only way that makes sense, is if he were never a Protestant. Because scripture is absolutely clear about not mixing traditions of men over God’s word. Catholics do it on a habitual basis.