Message from @P3TER_

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2019-07-19 15:03:42 UTC  

That's right, I could explain it way better with a picture, but that isn't possible, right?

2019-07-19 15:13:09 UTC  

I understand what you're saying about the isosceles triangle, but there are a few problems. The most important of which is that the angle that you're measuring has to be with respect to the surface of the Earth on both models. On the flat model, the norm of the surface is always in one direction. In the globe model, the norm changes depending on where you are

2019-07-19 15:14:01 UTC  

I also wish I could use some pictures to explain, but I'm very new to discord, so I have no idea about any of that 😦

2019-07-19 15:15:20 UTC  

In this case it's not Discord, I think we have to debate more to get the option to send pictures.

2019-07-19 15:19:04 UTC  

That's alright. We both understand that the earth is a sphere, so I trust us both to understand how triangles work

2019-07-19 15:19:41 UTC  

Definetely

2019-07-19 15:31:44 UTC  

i know we can make a triangle on a globe earth, it's how we first calculated the distance to the sun, but a near sun on a flat earth will not produce the same angles as a distant sun on a globe earth

2019-07-19 15:32:22 UTC  

since they are different triangles

2019-07-19 15:32:57 UTC  

That's for sure, but that has more to do with the position of the sun than the shape of the earth.

2019-07-19 15:35:16 UTC  

ok but one of the postulates of most FE is that the sun is very close

2019-07-19 15:35:30 UTC  

Yeah, I forgot about that

2019-07-19 15:36:29 UTC  

also, if the sun is very far away, why can we see it but we can only see a limited distance on a flat disc?

2019-07-19 15:37:30 UTC  

if the sun is actually very distant, is there still a dome? does that dome cover everything including the sun?

2019-07-19 15:37:47 UTC  

if not, what else is beyond the dome?

2019-07-19 15:38:07 UTC  

I don't know to whom you're asking this questions?

2019-07-19 15:38:18 UTC  

and if there is no dome but a distant sun, then are there also other planets? are they also flat?

2019-07-19 15:38:42 UTC  

i'm telling you why a close sun is actually very important to FE

2019-07-19 15:39:29 UTC  

Ah, allright

2019-07-19 15:40:48 UTC  

So they think that a sun, larger than the earth (although not as large as the sun is, according to NASA) , is inside a type of atmosphere?

2019-07-19 15:43:57 UTC  

usually, the common answer is that the sun and moon are the same size, smaller than earth, and very close to earth (though not close enough to reach by plane)
the ones who believe in a dome often believe that the sun and moon are part of the dome itself or just very close to the dome.
and they believe that they are both self luminescent (the moon doesn't reflect the light from the sun)
and that the moon sends off cooling light

2019-07-19 15:46:18 UTC  

But the sun (for 90% sure) can't be smaller than the earth. It would just have been burnt-out.

2019-07-19 15:48:29 UTC  

They don't think it's a ball of gas. I don't think they have a consensus on what it is, exactly, just that it *isn't* what mainstream science says it is.

2019-07-19 17:05:13 UTC  

The sun on flat earth geometrically has to be around 35 km in diameter

2019-07-19 17:06:03 UTC  

And around 4,300 km away

2019-07-19 17:22:28 UTC  

In that case the sun can't have burnt for 6,000 or more years.

2019-07-19 17:26:14 UTC  

Again, they don't think the sun is a ball of gas, so whether it can sustain itself for 6,000 or more years doesn't really concern them.

2019-07-19 17:26:56 UTC  

The sun would never actually reach fusion at that size.

2019-07-19 17:28:44 UTC  

So they didn't come up with an alternative way of how the sun must produce light?

2019-07-19 17:29:46 UTC  

No, but they don't hide the fact that they don't know.

2019-07-19 17:30:34 UTC  

That's not very creative

2019-07-19 17:31:40 UTC  

haha, no, not really. A lot of what they choose to believe is based on direct evidence. And, since you can't visit the sun yourself, you can't really know for sure what it is.

2019-07-19 17:37:16 UTC  

Well, actually I was wrong with my 'sun must've burnt-out-theory' if the sun was only 35 kilometres. It appears to be the following: The larger a star is, the faster it burns up.

2019-07-19 17:38:12 UTC  

However, a sun (according to the best-known theory) probably can't be 35 km in diameter and still be a sun.

2019-07-19 17:38:27 UTC  

no, it would never be able to achieve fusion.

2019-07-19 18:22:30 UTC  

97 has an explanation on why it could sustain fusion or something

2019-07-19 18:22:51 UTC  

I have no idea if it’s bs or not but you should talk to them

2019-07-19 18:45:07 UTC  

I'd be interested to hear that. I'll ask him in the other server

2019-07-19 18:47:54 UTC  

Lol thats an interesting piece of data.

2019-07-20 00:03:14 UTC  

so .. just measure that curve u trolls beLIEve in so much ,, and prove it ur self , //

2019-07-20 00:05:06 UTC  

..
u want ppl to spoon feed u info when u still cling to mainstream bs -- mockery , , -they-are mocking u , the public

2019-07-20 00:06:11 UTC  

Y o-u a-RE ilLe-gibL-e