No proof

It was man who transgressed and brought sin and death, not God

proof everywhere you look

No stories in the bible makes sense

And in all other religious literature for that matter

Satan has clouded your eyes and thinking.. IT IS hIS JOB

There is no satan

You see a car, you say: wow what a remarkable piece of technology
You see a bridge and say: wow what an amazing design
You see nature and go: clearly nobody made this

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ok if we want to further discuss religion can we take it to the Religious discussion room? THANKS that would be great

Not denying that there could be something that made the world but there us no proof and won’t believe before there is 100% proof

Aight

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Sure

lets go then if you wanna talk about it

come on PUMPKIN im intrigued at what you think

yarl landahoy

@Tejiu The Gecko what have you known to be made from 100% nothing?

God? @Citizen Z

Who made your computer?

That's the problem with the paradox, it's still a paradox even with God in the mix

Who caused God?

Thats because you think you know everything

Once you admit you cant and dont know everything then it works

I could have said that about your starting argument as well

You think god obeys our laws of physics?

Well assuming he created this universe then no

Is cause and effect not part of his universe?

Can you have space without time? When would you put it?

That's the thing right

Can you time without space? Where would you put it?

If big bang was the first moment time, there was no "before big bang"

So your intuitions about the cause and effect goes straight out the window

Its asinine to think you can know all this

Just the first moment in time to the last

Not even saying we do know this

I dont worry about that sorta thing

Im fine with the fact we will never know

But you know there must be a god?

Must be a designer yes

"Thats because you think you know everything"