Message from @Enn

Discord ID: 598577116967206943


2019-07-10 18:06:54 UTC  

Yes

2019-07-10 18:07:28 UTC  

so he was trying to make people belive that you can only achieve salvation by faith/

2019-07-10 18:07:29 UTC  

?

2019-07-10 18:07:40 UTC  

well this turned into an actual conversation

2019-07-10 18:07:46 UTC  
2019-07-10 18:09:31 UTC  

He was trying to show that through you should adopt a living faith—that simply obeying the Law did not guarantee you were a good person.

2019-07-10 18:09:44 UTC  

Worship of the Law is actually Statism

2019-07-10 18:10:01 UTC  

Now seriously

2019-07-10 18:10:09 UTC  

I gotta ask you a question

2019-07-10 18:10:20 UTC  

Do you really believe in the flat Earth?

2019-07-10 18:10:33 UTC  

why is messing up christian law automatically satanism?

2019-07-10 18:10:40 UTC  

I think it doesn't affect me either-or, since my feet are planted on the ground

2019-07-10 18:10:53 UTC  
2019-07-10 18:11:03 UTC  

worship of the law

2019-07-10 18:11:08 UTC  

it's not a good way to interpret laws

2019-07-10 18:11:13 UTC  

but why does it have to always be satanism

2019-07-10 18:11:24 UTC  

Who said anything about satanism?

2019-07-10 18:11:25 UTC  

what law are we talking about

2019-07-10 18:11:26 UTC  

how is it connected to the being that is satan

2019-07-10 18:11:36 UTC  

well you said "Worship of the Law is actually Statism"

2019-07-10 18:11:45 UTC  

*Statism*

2019-07-10 18:11:52 UTC  

oh lol i can't read

2019-07-10 18:11:56 UTC  

thanks

2019-07-10 18:12:14 UTC  

is this obeying the country's law?

2019-07-10 18:12:25 UTC  

or their own kind of religious law

2019-07-10 18:12:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/598577374551998465/statism_altar.jpg

2019-07-10 18:12:58 UTC  

obeying the country's law does guarantee that you are a good person since you're respecting everyone else's rights as a human

2019-07-10 18:13:01 UTC  

```statism :

The practice or doctrine of giving a centralized government control over economic planning and policy.

The art of government; hence, in a depreciative sense, policy.

The art of governing a state; statecraft; policy.```

2019-07-10 18:13:03 UTC  

depending on what kind of laws

2019-07-10 18:13:04 UTC  

they have

2019-07-10 18:13:23 UTC  

yes ty

2019-07-10 18:13:40 UTC  

obeying the law doesnt show that the government is in control

2019-07-10 18:13:48 UTC  

that just means people are civilized

2019-07-10 18:13:57 UTC  

In the OT the Church *was* the State, and Jesus called for separation thereof

2019-07-10 18:14:17 UTC  

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

2019-07-10 18:14:41 UTC  

That was reference to both politics and the psychological state of mind

2019-07-10 18:14:45 UTC  

jesus wasnt a very smart person

2019-07-10 18:15:11 UTC  

Neither was Winnie-the-Pooh, yet both are wise

2019-07-10 18:15:20 UTC  

if he was going to challenge something highly controversial at the time and back then empires didn't have any respect for human life

2019-07-10 18:15:52 UTC  

Rome didn't have any respect for Christians at the time, no, until Jesus was crucified.

2019-07-10 18:16:33 UTC  

no idea why jesus did not gather an army and overthrow the kingdom