Message from @shinjitsu

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2018-07-01 16:17:13 UTC  

i guess the deeper you go into a fractal, the greater the entropy? i mean fractals are essentially a visualization of infinitely.

2018-07-01 16:17:31 UTC  

Yeah it’s just the entropy part isn’t true

2018-07-01 16:17:55 UTC  

yea

2018-07-01 16:18:22 UTC  

i'm still confused. about entropy. is entropy about energy?

2018-07-01 16:19:16 UTC  

if so, no energy in a fractal.

2018-07-01 16:20:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441068168845197334/463016066541551616/image.jpg

2018-07-01 16:20:34 UTC  

Nope it’s actually really complicated. I can link you a paper that they write for physics undergrads trying to understand it

2018-07-01 16:21:24 UTC  

Basically it is a measure of how many states, given the rules of a system, something could possibly have sort of. So like a high entropy system would be a system where given the configuration, there are tons of ways it could exist in that way. Low entropy would be the opposite

2018-07-01 16:21:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441068168845197334/463016298331373578/FB_IMG_1530462116081.jpg

2018-07-01 16:22:16 UTC  

im not relating fractals to 2nd law

2018-07-01 16:22:20 UTC  

so it's like a binary tree that keeps branching? more and more possibilities into infinity?

2018-07-01 16:22:45 UTC  

thats self similarity

2018-07-01 16:22:46 UTC  

Ehh so it wouldn’t really make sense to consider the entropy of that

2018-07-01 16:23:06 UTC  

Because your rules allow for one thing. Makes more sense to consider entropy of something like particles in a box

2018-07-01 16:23:31 UTC  

i guess fractals are sort of a natural way to deal with entropy

2018-07-01 16:23:37 UTC  

i had not thought of that though

2018-07-01 16:24:00 UTC  

Fractals have nothing to do with entropy they would be the lowest entropy things possible

2018-07-01 16:24:08 UTC  

Because they follow a single pattern to infinity

2018-07-01 16:24:11 UTC  

but the amount of particles is finite, and entropy is always increasing, no?

2018-07-01 16:24:26 UTC  

Almost always yes

2018-07-01 16:24:36 UTC  

2nd law isn’t really a *law*

2018-07-01 16:24:41 UTC  

Especially on small scales

2018-07-01 16:24:52 UTC  

My dick is quantum entangled with your mom's puss

2018-07-01 16:24:56 UTC  

right so lets take a signal for example

2018-07-01 16:25:08 UTC  

since the space it travels throught increases over a dictance

2018-07-01 16:25:21 UTC  

then the signal loses potency/energy over longer distances

2018-07-01 16:25:40 UTC  

fractals have taught us that we need to put things in place every so often to boost that signal

2018-07-01 16:25:48 UTC  

this is where you get branching patterns

2018-07-01 16:25:51 UTC  

Fractals have literally nothing to do with it

2018-07-01 16:25:55 UTC  

like in blood vessels

2018-07-01 16:26:11 UTC  

It’s not losing signal due to some like fractal branching

2018-07-01 16:26:21 UTC  

yes fractals are how we measure and deal with the self similar entropy

2018-07-01 16:26:25 UTC  

fractals are just instructions for an intimately repeating geometric pattern. There is no loss.

2018-07-01 16:26:30 UTC  

like a reinforcement

2018-07-01 16:26:47 UTC  

How do you think that’s related to a signal I don’t get it

2018-07-01 16:26:49 UTC  

fractals are not an action, they are an analysis

2018-07-01 16:27:02 UTC  

A signal does not lose power due to anything other than interactions with the medium

2018-07-01 16:27:24 UTC  

even a laser spreads out over distance

2018-07-01 16:27:36 UTC  

Not if perfectly collimated or whatever the term is

2018-07-01 16:27:44 UTC  

yeah, a wave would just get stretched by expanding space. red shift / blue shift. No energy loss.

2018-07-01 16:27:47 UTC  

In a vacuum