Message from @Uncle Kidney Loves Booty
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The Catholics and the Christian.
Which one are correct ?
The great schism was simply mainly due to the collapse of the Roman Empire into east and west territories.
Still, two diffrent religions.
Catholics were still largely a part of both.
One in which you can aparently put coins in a box for faster travel to heaven.
Eastern Orthodox is just an eastern version of Catholicism.
Listen, I have a question, if you are an overall good person you should go to heaven, and if you are an overall bad person you should go to hell, correct ?
I don’t subscribe to either of those. Since they are both heavily tainted by doctrines of men that are not in scripture whatsoever.
I would say being good is definitely important.
Being bad being worthy of hell, is precisely why people need to be saved.
Exactly, then, why is, let's say, burning a bible, which is just a book, considered a huge sin ?
But burning a math book is completly okay.
God seems a bit biased towards things about him.
Because a math book doesn’t contain a warning in it not to take away from what’s in it.
Also, if you don't go to church to pray and hail our great god, you are consdered a bad person.
I don’t often go to church myself.
Scripture says God does not dwell in temples made by human hands. So it’s not so much going to church, as it is pursuing an interest in God for yourself, regardless what anyone else thinks.
My point is that going to heaven or hell should be objective, on what kind of person you are, and not on how much you kiss god's butt.
God isn’t actually susceptible to flattery. He’s rather immune to nonsense.
The ideea is that you are going to hell kf you don't think he is the greatest, or if you are atheistst.
You don’t know him yet. So I don’t see why you would want to make up your mind because of something that is a rather deep topic.
The point is that you are punished by going to hell if you don't think he is the greatest, or if you just don't believe he exists.
God doesn’t desire any man to perish.
Mhmm.
I didn't say he kills you, I said that he makes sure your afterlife sucks.
I didn’t get to know him by thinking he was the greatest.
Rather the opposite. I found out when I had nothing left to lose, to give it a try. For all I knew, he was a complete tyrant, and hated me.
I was quite overwhelmed, to find out otherwise.
And yes, it was through a prayer I made to him.
Again, my point is that you are being punished for having the opinion that he dosen't exist or that he isn't tee greatest.
Punished for thinking otherwise.
Well, thinking ill of him is it’s own punishment. Because it’s actually a lie.
We do it to ourselves.
Hell for not believing he is good.
I remember a time the same applied for other people.
It was called communism.
As far as I know, hell is for people who know he is good, and reject him anyway.
Which is absolutely freaking nuts.
See, punishing people for rejecting him, no matter how good of a person you are.
There’s no such thing as a person being good without God. Even if they can do many good works. It doesn’t mean anything if it doesn’t honor the Good that made it to be so.