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2019-07-17 17:55:05 UTC  

I think its more they willingly refuse to believe in god because they dont have enough educational background to claim god is real. People have to educate themselves in all topics even if they dont like them. After all I don't skip english class

2019-07-17 18:03:21 UTC  

so every athiest refuses to believe in god? every single one of them?

2019-07-18 00:20:10 UTC  

No that one person particularly up there

2019-07-18 07:08:18 UTC  

```Citizen ZLast Sunday at 8:38 PM
Many stories in the bible have proof of being true```

Which ones?

2019-07-18 07:09:05 UTC  

also this statement implies others have proof of being wrong

2019-07-18 12:51:37 UTC  

If you were truly interested you would look for yourself

2019-07-18 14:24:03 UTC  

So there are none

2019-07-18 14:24:07 UTC  

Got it

2019-07-18 18:51:50 UTC  

Okay

2019-07-18 18:52:14 UTC  

There Are A lot Of Biblical Stories With Historic And Geologic Backing

2019-07-18 18:52:46 UTC  

Such As Jesus

2019-07-18 18:53:12 UTC  

I do believe Jesus existed

2019-07-18 18:53:25 UTC  

As a person I mean

2019-07-18 18:53:45 UTC  

There Was A Man Named Jesus Who Was Crucified For Saying He Was The Son Of God

2019-07-18 18:53:57 UTC  

The Debate Is Whether Or Not He Was

2019-07-18 18:54:07 UTC  

I Believe He Was And Is

2019-07-18 18:54:30 UTC  

I agree with your first statement but those capitals are killing me man

2019-07-18 18:54:57 UTC  

Sorry Lol, I Just Type This Way

2019-07-18 18:55:13 UTC  

Here, I got you

2019-07-18 18:55:50 UTC  

Also the red sea and all the punishments in the Old Testament have backing to be true with geologic evidence

2019-07-18 18:56:50 UTC  

Almost all biblical stories(Not counting Revalations) have historic backing to be true there is just the question that some ask of whether or not there was a god on their side

2019-07-18 18:58:02 UTC  

Except of course genesis, that is the most debated one

2019-07-18 18:59:25 UTC  

But the way I see it if there are people doing amazing things such as healing people as there is historic backing to say that Jesus Christ (Even As A Man) Did then who's to say that the first part of the story which is creation isn't true

2019-07-18 19:01:47 UTC  

Well the issue is almost every part of the bible is interwoven with God as you’d expect, so whether certain parts are verifiable is somewhat irrelevant to the factuality of the bible as a whole

2019-07-18 19:02:28 UTC  

Which leads down to the core debate if whether god is real, which is somewhat a dead end in a debate because there’s not really much proof either way

2019-07-18 19:06:17 UTC  

Well as I said if there was a man who was healing people with incurable sicknessess with his hand saying he was the son of god and then he was crucified and brought from the dead, there isn't much choice but to believe the dude that beat death. There isn't physical proof but with this much historic evidence of people doing astounding things and proceeding to say it was all God, they're backing up their debate a good amount. Of course we won't know unless we die or God were to reveal himself but I think that's exactly what faith is.

2019-07-18 19:12:10 UTC  

The problem is again the verifiability of those actions and how much the bible can be trusted as an accurate source

2019-07-18 19:12:49 UTC  

I mean if a dictionary had as many inconsistencies as the bible it would be taken off the shelves

Not that that totally invalidates the whole book or anything

2019-07-18 19:13:04 UTC  

Just that one has to be careful when it comes to using it as fact

2019-07-18 19:13:11 UTC  

Well my point is it's not just the bible, it's historic sources from eye witnesses that also add to the validity of it

2019-07-18 19:13:33 UTC  

So if Jesus was historically seen by roman guards and stuff performing miracles

2019-07-18 19:13:42 UTC  

And they wrote it down as a log

2019-07-18 19:13:51 UTC  

Or reported it to a king

2019-07-18 19:14:10 UTC  

Ah I see what you mean

2019-07-18 19:14:22 UTC  

Then Jesus having those powers is as near to proven as it can be without going back in time

2019-07-18 19:16:53 UTC  

I see what you’re saying, it just seems like it is a very small amount of evidence to base a whole belief system on
Because it is the bible that is used to form religious morals and laws, and to say what’s right or wrong

2019-07-19 16:46:04 UTC  

i saw atheist. i am here

2019-07-24 09:16:18 UTC  

sorry, but I'm an evolutionist

2019-07-25 00:47:48 UTC  

So you're basically an ape?

2019-07-25 03:14:44 UTC  

Was

2019-07-25 06:21:48 UTC  

No most likely it is he either shares ancestry with apes from a common species that is most likely multi millions of years ago or we were the result of a hybrid species that managed to take hold and survive and slowly evolve into humans