Message from @the21cat

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2019-08-21 16:34:39 UTC  

Claim: The study of vaccines, their historical record of achievements, effectiveness, safety and mechanism in humans are well understood and proven in scientific and medical circles.
Fact: The claim is completely false.
1. Could you please provide one double-blind, placebo-controlled study that can prove the safety and effectiveness of vaccines?
2. Could you please provide scientific evidence on ANY study which can confirm the long-term safety and effectiveness of vaccines?
3. Could you please provide scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?
4. Could you please explain how the safety and mechanism of vaccines in the human body are scientifically proven if their pharmacokinetics (the study of bodily absorption, distribution, metabolism and excretion of ingredients) are never examined
or analyzed in any vaccine study?

2019-08-21 16:35:15 UTC  

One of the most critical elements which defines the toxicity potential of any vaccine are its pharmacokinetic properties. Drug companies and health agencies refuse to consider the study, analysis or evaluation of the pharmacokinetic properties of any vaccine.
There is not one double-blind, placebo-controlled study in the history of vaccine development that has ever proven their safety, effectiveness or achievements (unless those achievements have underlined their damage to human health).
There are also no controlled studies completed in any country which have objectively proven that vaccines have had any direct or consequential effect on the reduction of any type of disease in any
part of the world.

2019-08-21 16:35:31 UTC  

Every single study that has ever attempted to validate the safety and effectiveness of vaccines has conclusively established carcinogenic, mutagenic, neurotoxic or fertility impairments, but they won't address those.

2019-08-21 16:35:52 UTC  

Claim: Preservatives and chemical additives used in the manufacture of vaccines are safe and no studies have been linked or proven them unsafe for use in humans.
Fact: The claim is completely false.

2019-08-21 16:36:28 UTC  

5. Could you please provide scientific justification as to how injecting a human being with a confirmed neurotoxin is beneficial to human health and prevents disease?
6. Can you provide a risk/benefit profile on how the benefits of injecting a known neurotoxin exceeds its risks to human health for the intended goal of preventing disease?
This issue is no longer even open to debate. It is a scientifically established fact in literally hundreds of studies that the preservatives and chemical additives in vaccines damage cells. Neurotoxicity, immune suppression, immune-mediated chronic inflammation and carcinogenic proliferation are just a few of several effects that have been observed on the human body.

2019-08-21 16:36:55 UTC  

Fortunately, the drug companies still tell us the damage vaccines have on the human body. People just don't read them. All you have to do is look at the insert for any vaccine, and it will detail the exact ingredients, alerts and potentially lethal effects.

2019-08-21 16:37:12 UTC  

Any medical professional who believes that it is justified to inject any type of neurotoxin into any person to prevent any disease is completely misguided, misinformed, deluded and ignorant of any logic regarding human health.

2019-08-21 16:37:33 UTC  

Claim: Once an individual is injected with the foreign antigen in the vaccine, that individual becomes immune to future infections.
Fact: The claim is completely false.

2019-08-21 16:38:08 UTC  

7. Could you please provide scientific justification on how bypassing the respiratory tract (or mucous membrane) is advantageous and how directly injecting viruses into the bloodstream enhances immune functioning and prevents future infections?
8. Could you please provide scientific justification on how a vaccine would prevent viruses from mutating?
9. Could you please provide scientific justification as to how a vaccination can target a virus in an infected individual who does not have the exact viral configuration or strain the vaccine was developed for?

2019-08-21 16:38:24 UTC  

All promoters of vaccination fail to realize that the respiratory tract of humans (actually all mammals) contains antibodies which initiates natural immune responses within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosal aspect of the immune system by directly injecting viruses into the bloodstream leads to a corruption in the immune system itself. As a result, the pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain in the body, where they will further grow and/or mutate as the individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environment which continue to assault the immune system.

2019-08-21 16:38:56 UTC  

Despite the injection of any type of vaccine, viruses continue circulating through the body, mutating and transforming into other organisms. The ability of a vaccine manufacturer to target the exact viral strain without knowing its mutagenic properties is equivalent to shooting a gun at a fixed target that has already been moved from its location. You would be shooting at what was, not what is!

2019-08-21 16:39:20 UTC  

Flu viruses, may mutate, change or adapt several times over a period of one flu season, making the seasonal influenza vaccine 100% redundant and ineffective every single flu season. Ironically, the natural immune defenses of the human body can target these changes but the vaccines cannot.

2019-08-21 16:40:20 UTC  

Not one pro-vaccine advocate will ever directly address these questions in an open mainstream venue.

2019-08-21 17:50:58 UTC  

Flu vaccine isn't that efficient tbh, cause the flu always evolves so scientist have to guess (based on research) what it will be like next year. But the flu vaccine shouldn't represent vaccines, as most don't evolve (as fast) as the flu.

2019-08-21 18:29:55 UTC  

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2019-08-21 22:47:58 UTC  

Alot of those questions are definitely easily answerable

2019-08-21 22:48:14 UTC  

then do it

2019-08-21 22:48:37 UTC  

I will in like an hour

2019-08-21 23:32:40 UTC  

2

2019-08-21 23:34:00 UTC  

3 Eradication of smallpox

2019-08-21 23:35:25 UTC  

Please wait to comment on these pieces for like 15 minutes as i collect info

2019-08-21 23:40:03 UTC  

1 no because not giving people vaccines when they are told that we are giving them vaccines for somewhat serious diseases is unethical. Though i suppose it could be done on monkeys possibly

2019-08-21 23:40:29 UTC  

I think I used to have disease and vaccine statistics on here but I don’t know if I have them still. I can’t even post them if I had them either way

2019-08-21 23:47:21 UTC  

4. This is somewhat of a problem and it is being pushed for but we do have some tests we do before we push it through to humans; its required to be tested on animals

2019-08-21 23:47:47 UTC  

Ive got a link if you want to see

2019-08-21 23:50:12 UTC  

Its still not significant enough for everything to be determined but it weeds the very large problems out.

2019-08-21 23:52:30 UTC  

5. As of now, the specific neurotoxin is unspecified so the question has no meaning. Though if you find what neurotoxin you are talking about glad to go through it

2019-08-21 23:53:16 UTC  

6. Same as 5

2019-08-21 23:55:49 UTC  

7 if its a live virus it can go in through the nose but if isnt then it has to be taken into the blood stream. In reality theres no difference really to the future immune response particular to the site injection

2019-08-22 00:00:01 UTC  

8. They can freeze and basically inactivate viruses until the production must start. After that the mutation process can happen. Usually this mutation wont significantly affect the reciever though. If its not a live virus though it cant mutate so that problem can be solved depending on the needed immunity to the virus.

2019-08-22 00:08:38 UTC  

9 alot of that is missing needed citation some of it on a logical scale of effectiveness simply doesnt match up. But to answer your actual question posted, Some antigens are somewhat or fully effective on other viruses because the MHC proteins are very similar or actually are the same. We think of viruses as fast mutating and in reality some of them are, but many of them dont mutate that fast. Also flu vaccines are known to be usually ineffective because they have to try and guess how the virus will mutate which is impossible to get right all the time

2019-08-22 00:17:34 UTC  

@the21cat Lol skipped right over number 1 lol

2019-08-22 00:18:10 UTC  

also number 2 we have got proof that more have died from the measles vaccine that the disease its self

2019-08-22 00:19:00 UTC  

eradication of small pox may have zero to do with the vaccine seeing as how it was already in decline before it was introduced

2019-08-22 00:19:15 UTC  

correlation is not proof of cause

2019-08-22 00:20:15 UTC  

4. Could you please explain how the safety and mechanism of vaccines in the human body are scientifically proven if their pharmacokinetics (the study of bodily absorption, distribution, metabolism and excretion of ingredients) are never examined
or analyzed in any vaccine study? show me studies showing it is safe for humans