Message from @the21cat
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Despite the injection of any type of vaccine, viruses continue circulating through the body, mutating and transforming into other organisms. The ability of a vaccine manufacturer to target the exact viral strain without knowing its mutagenic properties is equivalent to shooting a gun at a fixed target that has already been moved from its location. You would be shooting at what was, not what is!
Flu viruses, may mutate, change or adapt several times over a period of one flu season, making the seasonal influenza vaccine 100% redundant and ineffective every single flu season. Ironically, the natural immune defenses of the human body can target these changes but the vaccines cannot.
Not one pro-vaccine advocate will ever directly address these questions in an open mainstream venue.
Flu vaccine isn't that efficient tbh, cause the flu always evolves so scientist have to guess (based on research) what it will be like next year. But the flu vaccine shouldn't represent vaccines, as most don't evolve (as fast) as the flu.
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Alot of those questions are definitely easily answerable
then do it
I will in like an hour
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3 Eradication of smallpox
Please wait to comment on these pieces for like 15 minutes as i collect info
1 no because not giving people vaccines when they are told that we are giving them vaccines for somewhat serious diseases is unethical. Though i suppose it could be done on monkeys possibly
I think I used to have disease and vaccine statistics on here but I don’t know if I have them still. I can’t even post them if I had them either way
4. This is somewhat of a problem and it is being pushed for but we do have some tests we do before we push it through to humans; its required to be tested on animals
Ive got a link if you want to see
Its still not significant enough for everything to be determined but it weeds the very large problems out.
5. As of now, the specific neurotoxin is unspecified so the question has no meaning. Though if you find what neurotoxin you are talking about glad to go through it
7 if its a live virus it can go in through the nose but if isnt then it has to be taken into the blood stream. In reality theres no difference really to the future immune response particular to the site injection
8. They can freeze and basically inactivate viruses until the production must start. After that the mutation process can happen. Usually this mutation wont significantly affect the reciever though. If its not a live virus though it cant mutate so that problem can be solved depending on the needed immunity to the virus.
9 alot of that is missing needed citation some of it on a logical scale of effectiveness simply doesnt match up. But to answer your actual question posted, Some antigens are somewhat or fully effective on other viruses because the MHC proteins are very similar or actually are the same. We think of viruses as fast mutating and in reality some of them are, but many of them dont mutate that fast. Also flu vaccines are known to be usually ineffective because they have to try and guess how the virus will mutate which is impossible to get right all the time
also number 2 we have got proof that more have died from the measles vaccine that the disease its self
eradication of small pox may have zero to do with the vaccine seeing as how it was already in decline before it was introduced
correlation is not proof of cause
4. Could you please explain how the safety and mechanism of vaccines in the human body are scientifically proven if their pharmacokinetics (the study of bodily absorption, distribution, metabolism and excretion of ingredients) are never examined
or analyzed in any vaccine study? show me studies showing it is safe for humans
Aluminium is neurotoxic. Its free ion, Al(3+) (aq), is highly biologically reactive and uniquely equipped to do damage to essential cellular (neuronal) biochemistry. This unequivocal fact must be the starting point in examining the risk posed by aluminium as a neurotoxin in humans. Aluminium is present in the human brain and it accumulates with age.
Thimerosal is another neurotoxin
that is number 5
get back to me when you can prove aluminum is ok for the human body
this also crushes your argument on number 6
also proved my point with number 7 ty
and no your not going to stop it from mutating in the wild after they put it in someone and they spread it therefore those that get the mutated version will not be protected will they !!!!1
where is your scientific proof of what you CLAIM for number 9. this is the point of number 9 it can not affect something it is not targeted to affect