Message from @skywalk
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> You have an idea: there are vacuum fields that permeate empty space and are responsible for the forces we observe.
You also see that this would cause something, in this case that would be a force due to something called vacuum energy that arises from the sum of the ground-state energies for every quantum field that can be modeled as a quantum harmonic oscillator. The theory predicts that due to fluctuations in said fields there will arise a physical force.
Now, based off this theory and the assumptions it makes you can create an experiment to verify it's prediction, an experiment that would only work if this specific theory was true. That was the casimir effect.
The mutual attraction between two uncharged closely spaced parallel plane mirrors which was precisely made by hypothetically having some modes of the quantum field cut off. So that this would create some amount of force that we could mathematically predict via QED.
So again to reiterate, this experiment would only work if there were quantum modes of a quantum field and that this field did have a fluctuating energy level due to the heisenberg uncertainty principle. So if this experiment worked it would be proof of the original theory, since to work the original assumptions would have to be correct.
Now we do the experiment in the precise way that would only be allowed if QED were true and we get a force, the effect, that we can measure and show was exactly predicted by our theory.
@Human Sheeple the casimir effect only works because of the presumptions built into QED. The plates are a certain length away to cut off the certain modes of the quantum field. Like they needed this to be so accurate that they had to measure the distance between the plates explicitly. Second off, the mathematical prediction you can make via QFT is completely accurate with the measured force we observe in reality.
This is literally the simplest way to prove a theory. The theory made the prediction, completely explained the prediction, and when we tested to confirm the production (having to set up an experiment based off the very specifics of how our theory worked), we got a value exactly mirroring our calculations for this prediction.
It's like saying, I've got a fully functioning theory and equation for how this rock will move and predict that the rock will move a certain way. Then do the experiment with the rock and find it moves the exact way my theory predicted.
Now you're basically asking me to take your unproven hypothesis of what caused this with no mathematical equation to even predict or measure this with and then prove your hypothesis wasn't correct. @Deleted User
Again dude, you're saying prove aether isn't the cause
Your aether doesn't even have a mathematical description, no way to even predict how the experiment goes
In fact, the only math you've provided for it is this
cant talk in flatearth anymore...
I was going to say, how do you explain a sun set in a flat earth model
Too bad I guess.
No you werent
its ok, I can still read.
You going to try and ridicule and belittle ppl
@skywalk what you said is centrifugal force not gravity, what a brainlet doesn't even know his own arguments rofl
Who’s belittle who?
he asked if we were willing to do some kind of small debate, I was listening
You guys dont listen to shit
@rivenator12113 Gravity is a centripetal force
i've got proof that the earth is round
If you had a mind of your own you would be asking me for more info on what im talking about
But instead you continue to be braindead
@Citizen Z It asked you why we see ships disappear bottom up, all you gave me was perspective and lensing, that isn’t an explanation.
ya'll want to see the proof
just in 2019, pseudo scientific flat earthers failed 7 times to proove earth is flat, yes plz @hehexd
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gravity
prove gravity
@rivenator12113 What qualifies as proof to you?
if the earth was flat you would've fallen into the void
if you we're walking so much
that you'll reach the end
that doesnt provve gravity
or
@rivenator12113 What causes objects to fall down?
if the earth is flat how can you dig so deep?
who said the earth was thin?
its flat but still has some depth
the universe is electric, if the black hole in the middle of the milky way spin, our sun spin, everything spin accordingly to our central black hole, because everything is a sphere and not a disc, if it was a disc, it would break, there wouldnt be volcanos and many things wouldnt possible in a flat earth model. we couldnt find new planets dimming the light coming from far away stars if planets would be disc
if the earth was flat you would've just get throught the material faster
why?
and tell me how water works