Message from @the21cat

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2019-08-03 16:18:23 UTC  

Oh, I misunderstood, but what I'm saying is that gravity is way too high level, you don't need to prove gravity, you only need to use simple maths, simple observations etc...

2019-08-03 16:32:45 UTC  

One of the premises of the flat Earth theory is that gravity doesn't exist

2019-08-03 16:33:23 UTC  

And if they just say it doesn't exist without saying why we can't really explain it exists now can we?

2019-08-03 16:41:41 UTC  

Ok but, even with gravity being the main reason GE works, gravity doesn't explain why star maps in the north and south are different. Gravity doesn't explain seasons and time zones and day/night cycles etc

2019-08-03 16:41:56 UTC  

>gravity doesn't magically change the way everything else works, it just replaces it by something that enables us to understand why things fall towards the earth. It doesn't mean the earth magically becomes flat since we have many other ways to prove it's a globe
You need to prove gravity in order for globe earth to exist.

2019-08-03 16:42:14 UTC  

actually, no, you just need to look at the sky

2019-08-03 16:42:35 UTC  

you need gravity to understand why it's a globe and why things don't fall off it.

2019-08-03 16:42:35 UTC  

If you can prove gravity, globe earth would be factual and flat earth wouldn't work.

2019-08-03 16:42:50 UTC  

Flat earth doesn't work, just look at the sun and moon

2019-08-03 16:42:58 UTC  

That doesn't prove gravity

2019-08-03 16:43:18 UTC  

Who care about gravity? You can't match observations from a flat plane to observations in real life.

2019-08-03 16:43:24 UTC  

Red herring lol

2019-08-03 16:43:59 UTC  

nope, your model can't explain things, mine can, mine is more accurate.

2019-08-03 16:44:23 UTC  

Red herring once again, every time you lose you switch to another subject. Aren't you tired of it?

2019-08-03 16:45:18 UTC  

I haven't changed subject yet, my whole point is that even if gravity can be disproven, whatever replaces it, will also take into consideration that the earth is a globe since gravity is not the only way to prove the earth is a globe.

2019-08-03 16:45:19 UTC  

Flat earth could work with gravity people are just way too lazy ti figure it out

2019-08-03 16:45:34 UTC  

Flat earth can't work with gravity.......

2019-08-03 16:45:49 UTC  

It can

2019-08-03 16:46:01 UTC  

why is the sun in the sky on a flat earth?

2019-08-03 16:46:19 UTC  

Where is the center of gravity on a flat earth?

2019-08-03 16:46:29 UTC  

Its being held there by a pole

2019-08-03 16:46:45 UTC  

why has no one ever crashed into that pole?

2019-08-03 16:46:48 UTC  

Depends on how its mass is spread out

2019-08-03 16:46:48 UTC  

>haven't changed subject yet, my whole point is that even if gravity can be disproven, whatever replaces it, will also take into consideration that the earth is a globe since gravity is not the only way to prove the earth is a globe.
False, you need gravity in order for globe earth to work. Water always its seek level

2019-08-03 16:47:12 UTC  

Because noone has ever flown to the sun

2019-08-03 16:47:33 UTC  

A pole to the top of the dome

2019-08-03 16:48:40 UTC  

There are several other problems with flat earth maybe

2019-08-03 16:49:04 UTC  

But it could still coincide with gravity

2019-08-03 16:49:16 UTC  

True, but he was discussing that you don't need gravity in order for a globe earth to exist

2019-08-03 16:49:17 UTC  

False, you don't need gravity for a globe earth, we currently have a theory and it's called gravity, replacing it with another theory doesn't change the shape of the earth, therefore, the new theory will still predict that water will stick to the globe. since, again, there are other ways to prove a globe, you won't make any other shape work with the next theory.

2019-08-03 16:49:46 UTC  

You're assuming globe earth already exists.

2019-08-03 16:49:54 UTC  

yeah from all the other proofs

2019-08-03 16:49:56 UTC  

You need gravity for it to exists.

2019-08-03 16:50:13 UTC  

no, you need something acting as a force keeping matter together

2019-08-03 16:50:19 UTC  

Which is gravity

2019-08-03 16:50:23 UTC  

Yeah but not to prove its a globe

2019-08-03 16:51:06 UTC  

yes, right now, it's called gravity, but we can call it "matter likes other matter and wants to stick to it"

2019-08-03 16:51:23 UTC  

You can prove a globe in many ways, but you would still need gravity for it in order to work.

2019-08-03 16:51:40 UTC  

@Akhanyatin Again, you're assuming globe earth already exists and mass already attracts mass.

2019-08-03 16:51:53 UTC  

you can prove a globe in many ways, therefore, any of these ways is enough to prove that the earth is a globe

2019-08-03 16:52:03 UTC  

Yes but if we prove a globe; we are not necessarily assuming gravity