Message from @rivenator12113
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@Akhanyatin I don't think he assumes the earth is a globe he believes it's flat
He believes you think it's a globe since that is the role you applied yourself to
He's making logical fallacies which was the main problem of the debate
Yes he believes it's flat but for the purpose of the discussion he kept saying "we're already assuming that the earth is a globe, stop strawmanning"
earth is round case closed
Yeah pretty much
Anyways gtg, have a good weekend
we didn't even get to that part because someone was getting stuck on one thing rather than saying "prove the earth is globe" instead
bye
Also I'm gonna be gone tomorrow for 6 days starting at 4 am so if I don't respond that's why
Main debate was that @Akhanyatin said that you don't need gavity in or order for globe earther model to work. Keep comforting each other globe earthers 🤣
>no matter what you say after that. Now we can also observe water sticking to the globe. Whatever theory you come up with, we can call it gravity or we can call it space glue
That is gravity, so you need it work. You again disproved yourself lol.
@Abe Lover Straw man, that wasn't what the debate was about.
I think you have a problem with reading. The sentence is longer than that. But as a typical flat earther, you only take the bits and pieces that you like.
We don't ONLY need gravity to prove the earth is a globe. We can prove that the earth is a globe in MANY other ways.
Please don't change my words, when you're too ignorant to understand them.
You literally said: >We don't need gravity in order for globe earth to work. Which I said false then the debate started. Your attention span is something extraordinary
This is the full phrase: 11:51 AM]Akhanyatin:Whether gravity exists or not, is irrelevant wtv replaces it will still assert that the earth is a globe. My whole point is that trying to prove flat earth using advanced notions like gravity won't work since you still can't explain simple notions. Start by explaining simple notions, then try to escalate to gravity. If your model of flat earth only addresses gravity, it's still going to be an inaccurate model since it explains nothing else.
Which I said false to
well we don't need gravity, we need something to keep matter sticking together. whether it's gravity or space glue is irrelevant. if you look for "we don't need gravity" you'll see that it's what i've been saying from the beginning but you've been cherry picking what ever suits your flawed theory.
I can't believe your still saying that
Can you not read?
"Whether gravity exists or not, is irrelevant wtv replaces it will still assert that the earth is a globe."
It's funny because you said the same thing to another guy: cherry picking what ever suits your flawed theory.
read the whole sentence instead of stopping after 6 words
well no, what needs to exist is a reason why matter sticks together.
Again, you're assuming it already exists.
Do all globe earthers know is to go in circles?
Waste of time to debate
DOES WATER FLY INTO SPACE?
You're litteraly repeating the same thing when you have nothing to come up.
NO THATS WHY YOU NEED GRAVITY
IS THAT TOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
NO THAT'S WHY YOU NEED SOMETHING. WHICH HAS BEEN EXPLAINED BY GRAVITY.
IF YOU WANT TO DISPROVE GRAVITY, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A THEORY THAT EXPLAINS WHAT GRAVITY EXPLAINED AND THIGNS THAT GRAVITY DIDN'T EXPLAIN
SO THEN YOU NEED GRAVITY IN ORDER FOR IT TO EXIST? You're literally repeating yourself over and over and can't get over it.
You need something. We explained it as gravity.
But the shape is not ONLY explained by gravity
Thank you, WAS IT TOO HARD? you NEED gravity for globe earth model to work. Jesus christ, is it too hard to grasp?
so wtv gravity changes, you need to change EVERY OTHER thing that explains the shape as a sphere
ok how do you disprove gravity? do you need an alternate theory or do you just say "gravity hurts my feelings"?
Red herring, that wasn't what the discussion about. I'm glad you changed your mind at the end.
this was the entire discussion
are you trolling or are you this thick?
Entire discussion was you saying that you don't need gravity in order for globe earth to work. It wasn't about disproving the theory of gravity. Do you have reading problems?