wtf

never heard this argument

Flat earthers don't like to discuss celestial evidence.

It's funny because polaris would only work on a flat earth model. You're not supposed to see all the stars everyday on a heliocentric model, imagine you have sun, earth and the stars. Earth revolves around the sun and the sun moves in a direction yet we see the same stars everyday at same spot. Would never work on a heliocentric model, it supports a stationery earth.

@rivenator12113 You don't see all the stars every day on a globe. You only see the stars in your hemisphere, or a mixture thereof on or near the equator

inb4 the sun isn't a star

? You see stars everywhere in the night, you don't need to be in the hemisphere only lol

@rivenator12113 And yes, without taking other factors into account, you can make a geocentric globe model work with the celestial rotation. But only a geocentric globe. Not a flat earth. The southern star pole is the problem for flat earthers to explain.

Everyday at night, we see the same constellations

@rivenator12113 What latitude do you live at?

US

east coast

Me too. Midwest. I'm guessing you can't see the Southern Cross, just like I can't

I see the same constellations everyday at night at the same time, I took note of it. This would never happen on a globe earth that rotates around the sun which moves in a path.

People in Australia see completely different stars rotating around a star pole that is not polaris

isn't there no southern pole star

@Superiorna_Artiljerija Doesn't matter if a star is in the celestial pole

The point is that stars rotate around a central point

No there isn't no south pole star because the globe doesn't exist. There is only polaris for the north star which would work on a flat earth.

Still no word on the southern cross

@rivenator12113 Are you flat out denying that people in the southern hemisphere see a different set of stars rotating around a different center point?

There isn't one as useful and precise as the polaris

Polaris is always in the same location

South stars? Not so much

Polaris actually rotates a tiny bit too

It is not dead center

People polar align their southern hemisphere telescopes all the time. It is trickier,but it works just the same as in the north.

Polaris rotates a few degree back and forth but it will always stay in the same spot. It has been used since the greeks for travelling north

Sailors use the southern cross as well

It is one of the key constellations for orienting one's self in the southern latitudes

Is there a south star? Nope

Only a north star

It is like using the big dipper to find north when polaris is covered by a cloud

Is there a central point around which all southern stars rotate? The answer is YES.

Polaris was the pole star starting at about 300 AD

Prior was Kochab

@rivenator12113 If Polaris suddenly disappeared, but all stars and patterns remained the same, would it be impossible to navigate north?

*all "other" stars and patterns (I meant to say)

Yes, historical evidence shows that stars have moved, when comparing the earliest meticulous star charts

@rivenator12113 You can't see orion in your sky right now, but you could months ago. What does that tell you?

@zirpu You can see the polaris star everyday, what does that tell you?