Then what's the point in believing?

> And, I think religion is a scam because of what ʎ 𝙚 ᔕ said. I didn't say believing in it was wrong.
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art well, I agree with that as well. It's just that so called religious leaders have twisted the original meaning

Religion is also used to keep average-joes in check. Yknow, if you step out of line you get eternal damnation.

> Then what's the point in believing?
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art you believe because you experienced it. Not the other way around

And how do you experience it?

when do you experience it

I have not seen a god speak to me

and if i did, i must be schizophrenic.

I have not made any observances of a god's presence.

> And how do you experience it?
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art I told you. Meditation is the best way. But there are some precautions. Just learn it from someone who has experienced it

But how is it the best way?

How does meditation give you experience in the knowledge that god is real?

other religions meditate too

I suppose you dont think every religion is true

I don't think any religion is true.

> But how is it the best way?
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art well, because dreams are hard to interpret. And I don't know any ways other than meditation or dreams. There is one more but let's keep the discussion to These 2

i am speaking to kaus

I know.

It does not mean I don't have to answer.

> I suppose you dont think every religion is true
@Kriskris I think every religions message was correct. The original at least

> How does meditation give you experience in the knowledge that god is real?
@Kriskris do you not feel water is wet when you touch it?

So you think that bending the original interpretation in order to take advantage of it is what makes it corrupt.

> So you think that bending the original interpretation in order to take advantage of it is what makes it corrupt.
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art ye

And the so called "spiritual leaders"

Very few of them teach what is correct

Rest are corrupt

Yes, however when you meditate god does not come down to you and start giving you a lecture. At that point i would say im hallucinating, if it did happen.

> Yes, however when you meditate god does not come down to you and start giving you a lecture. At that point i would say im hallucinating, if it did happen.
@Kriskris well, there are other ways.... :)

What? As in faith? Faith in a religion whose history is riddled with corruption and evil? I cannot.

I've had a few supernatural experiences. I don't genuinely believe in metaphysical realms, but I will acknowledge my experiences' validity.

> I've had a few supernatural experiences. I don't genuinely believe in metaphysical realms, but I will acknowledge my experiences validity.
@Wolfgang Amadeus Yurmom's art I would very humbly request you to listen to the audiobook on YouTube called "approaching the unconscious by Carl Jung"

That will clear your doubts

Interesting.

Or read it

But YouTube is free

Well, unless you count privacy as a cost.

Hehe

Jesus is pretty great

GG @Donald Trump, you just advanced to level 5!

Jesus probably is completely made up.

*probably*