Message from @justkaus

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2020-11-07 08:09:11 UTC  

i would have german videos about it but well that does not help

2020-11-07 08:09:27 UTC  

Ok ok. Let's go to the main point

2020-11-07 08:09:32 UTC  

Who gives credit?

2020-11-07 08:09:43 UTC  

Govt?

2020-11-07 08:10:05 UTC  

for giving credit (fiat money) you need a bank, banks give credit

2020-11-07 08:10:21 UTC  

you have goverment which makes rules for gioving credits

2020-11-07 08:10:52 UTC  

> for giving credit (fiat money) you need a bank, banks give credit
@hororizon44575 and money comes from credit. So it's right to claim money comes from banks?

2020-11-07 08:10:58 UTC  

and you have ecb which says you need an minimum of guarantys to give out an amount of credits

2020-11-07 08:11:09 UTC  

yes money comes from credit

2020-11-07 08:11:22 UTC  

thats why all this saying bank lends money is bullshit

2020-11-07 08:11:22 UTC  

I meant banks

2020-11-07 08:11:29 UTC  

No no, read it again

2020-11-07 08:11:35 UTC  

I did a typo

2020-11-07 08:12:32 UTC  

oh well yes it has to be banks (central banks are also banks which gives an other kind of credit to the bank) #interbankenhandel (in german)

2020-11-07 08:12:46 UTC  

Yeah, so it is banks

2020-11-07 08:13:08 UTC  

So if banks are the source of money. Why it's wrong to say they lend money?

2020-11-07 08:13:19 UTC  

According to you, what's the purpose of banks?

2020-11-07 08:13:36 UTC  

becouse lending means you have saved samething which you can than land out

2020-11-07 08:13:53 UTC  

banks do not have saved samething they creat samething thats an completly other thing

2020-11-07 08:14:41 UTC  

banks creat money and destroy money when credits are liquidated

2020-11-07 08:15:33 UTC  

Ah, ok

2020-11-07 08:15:36 UTC  

while how much they can create and in which rules is different from countrys

2020-11-07 08:15:40 UTC  

That makes sense

2020-11-07 08:16:03 UTC  

So what is the main purpose of banks? To keep putting money into the system?

2020-11-07 08:17:05 UTC  

well it depends who you ask. if they would not be privat i would say to guranty the right amount of money is in the sysem which does not couse high inflation or deflation rates

2020-11-07 08:17:20 UTC  

but well banks are privat which brings them to make as much money

2020-11-07 08:17:35 UTC  

which results in giving credits with the most return of invest

2020-11-07 08:17:58 UTC  

the return of invest are the interest rates

2020-11-07 08:18:36 UTC  

I see

2020-11-07 08:19:01 UTC  

while you also have the risk of if the other party can not pay back you actualy make a lose

2020-11-07 08:19:01 UTC  

I have some more questions, just wait for some time. Gtg

2020-11-07 08:34:48 UTC  

in all the economics debates i am missing that simple point

2020-11-07 08:35:34 UTC  

> the return of invest are the interest rates
@hororizon44575 so if banks print a lot of money, the interest rates increase.
Is this what the current problem is?

2020-11-07 08:35:39 UTC  
2020-11-07 08:35:46 UTC  

wait

2020-11-07 08:36:00 UTC  

to give a credit you also need sameone who wants the credit

2020-11-07 08:36:07 UTC  

Ok

2020-11-07 08:36:38 UTC  

in deflation bank will tend to not give credits becouse giving credit if nnoone buys means higher risk

2020-11-07 08:36:56 UTC  

but in inflation its the oppesit giving credit at low risk

2020-11-07 08:37:28 UTC  

(thats why i also think poeple who say just let it solve by free markets should check there brains)

2020-11-07 08:37:52 UTC  

What is "it"?