Message from @mineyful

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2019-08-12 19:36:22 UTC  

We're just arguing that it's rare, which by the way, it is.

2019-08-12 19:36:49 UTC  

Yes, I agree. It is extremely rarw.

2019-08-12 19:36:51 UTC  

Rare.

2019-08-12 19:36:54 UTC  

it by no means discredits the field in medicine

2019-08-12 19:37:20 UTC  

Are there long-term studies?

2019-08-12 19:37:37 UTC  

For?

2019-08-12 19:37:38 UTC  

for what chiropractors?

2019-08-12 19:37:47 UTC  

I honestly have yet to see a long-term study and the effects of chiropractic manipulation long-term.

2019-08-12 19:37:53 UTC  

alright lets find some

2019-08-12 19:38:48 UTC  

anything else?

2019-08-12 19:39:22 UTC  

Good finds.

2019-08-12 19:40:19 UTC  

First one: not a study.

2019-08-12 19:40:26 UTC  

oh you want studies

2019-08-12 19:40:28 UTC  

1 second

2019-08-12 19:40:48 UTC  

@Deleted User | Not sure if I'm allowed to ping you but I was wondering if I could have posting rights far as images.

2019-08-12 19:41:05 UTC  

Second one is not a study, but rather says you need to go into more research.

2019-08-12 19:41:08 UTC  

(not long term but i'm searching for long term) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0161475407001789

2019-08-12 19:41:21 UTC  

Jump in vc and I'll think about it

2019-08-12 19:41:49 UTC  

Not sure if I can voice-chat at the moment.

2019-08-12 19:42:00 UTC  

Actually give me a moment.

2019-08-12 19:42:07 UTC  

Pain, disability, and satisfation outcomes and predictors of outcomes: A practice-based study of chronic low back pain patients attending primary care and chiropractic physicians (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0161475401776890)
Effect of Chiropractic Care on Heart Rate Variability and Pain in a Multisite Clinical Study (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0161475406000546)

2019-08-12 19:42:55 UTC  

Effects of chiropractic treatment on blood pressure and anxiety: a randomized, controlled trial. (https://europepmc.org/abstract/med/3075649)

2019-08-12 19:43:36 UTC  

New research published in Spine journal analyzed the prevalence, patterns and predictors of chiropractic utilization in the U.S. general population. The researchers found that "Back pain and neck pain were the most prevalent health problems for chiropractic consultations and the majority of users reported chiropractic helping a great deal with their health problem and improving overall health or well-being." (https://www.acatoday.org/patients/why-choose-chiropractic/what-research-shows)

2019-08-12 19:43:57 UTC  

โ€œ[Chiropractic Manipulative Therapy] in conjunction with [standard medical care] offers a significant advantage for decreasing pain and improving physical functioning when compared with only standard care, for men and women between 18 and 35 years of age with acute low back pain." ( Goertz et al. (2013), Spine)

2019-08-12 19:44:04 UTC  

@Ssylphie anything else?

2019-08-12 19:45:35 UTC  

Research Shows Long-Term Results of On-Going Chiropractic Care (read article for more source) https://getradiantlife.com/research-shows-long-term-results-going-chiropractic-care/

2019-08-12 19:47:29 UTC  

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2019-08-12 19:49:18 UTC  
2019-08-12 19:49:37 UTC  

@mineyful | These are great finds, and also proves your point quite well.

2019-08-12 19:50:20 UTC  

@Deleted User | I'll join another time...

2019-08-12 20:00:09 UTC  

The first study isnโ€™t on long-term effects, rather on long-term back pain. It is even mentioned in the results that people who sought out medical care vs chiropractic care had about the same results. Pretty much Only the aspects of their care favored the Chiropractors. In other words, they tended to seem more nice or welcoming, like better at making them comfortable if Iโ€™m not mistaken. Radiating pain below the knee was also mentioned to favor chiropractic.

2019-08-12 20:02:19 UTC  

goodd

2019-08-12 20:02:24 UTC  

evening

2019-08-12 20:05:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/610564526714126366/Screenshot_20190812-160504.png

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2019-08-12 20:05:46 UTC  

@mineyful still no mute ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

2019-08-12 20:07:39 UTC  

@Deleted User i like your accent.

2019-08-12 20:15:23 UTC  

Second study: doesnโ€™t view long term effects of chiropractic, as well as the fact that 10 people were examined per physician, and 8 of them were asked for pain before and after each visit. Physicians could easily pick and chose who would be on the study. And 2 others would be monitored longer than the rest. Once again, data manipulation could take place.