I think labels like "Are Americans generally stupid" are never going to be something we can rationally agree is true. Yes, there are quite a few stupid Americans, but we need a more specific description than "generally"

Don't forget the idiots claiming wearing a mask is a government conspiracy

They can do a few antibody test groups, get a nice confidence interval.

I would love to see how the numbers of deaths of other causes compares to their trends.

What are you using to build that equation though?

Wait wait

what are the numbers you just gave?

That's 2.99 percent not .299 percent

I left for a few minutes and now the conversation switched to vaccines. I hope nobody is trying to claim vaccines are not good to get

I think a discussion needs to be had about what is the appropriate amount of skepticism.

Obviously I have faith that I exist, etc. But beyond that... who knows?

You don’t need faith to know you exist

Having faith in something means you’re taking a blind leap

I'm talking about the claims made by the Catholic dude during the youtube cast.

Ok. And I think you’re right on when you said we need the appropriate amount of skepticism. People like flat earthers don’t have an appropriate amount of skepticism.

Well, sorry to get philosophical, but how do you define the proper amount of skepticism?

I ask seriously and respectfully. I'm actually interested to know the answer.

When the evidence is overwhelming against something that’s when the skepticism needs to calm down

Like with flat earthers

They don’t stop being skeptical of the earth being round

That's weird. The same pattern is observed of christianity. Faith for one idea, and skepticism for contrary evidence.

When science is contrary to the long-held beliefs of christians, those christians believe the science to be incorrect.

@emile can you give a list of those books?

Voltaire: "two religions would fight endlessly". Irony: We will make your liberal philosophy into one of two belief options.

Angles!

@Smoke please delete this person, I don't know how

@Smoke please

The English accent automatically adds 17 IQ points

Hahaha

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648243956135624715/712056744536309871/batlogo_new_2cor10_5.gif

Yes. He is not paying attention to others.

Should I read.... Waking up or moral landscape?? Plz help me suggesting

And he tells others that they "have not understood" when they don't agree with him.

He’s filibustering and yelling at people who try to get clarification yet wants to jump in and refute what people are responding with at any moment

Yes.

Too many people talking at once.

We should have some sort of timer and turns or something

This was fun for a time. Thank you for the conversation till it broke down.