Message from @Yussuki ₪

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2020-09-22 19:01:24 UTC  

Hitler was elected.

2020-09-22 19:02:06 UTC  

But still, guys. You have so many freedoms in the US and you still say it's a Tyranny 😂

2020-09-22 19:03:01 UTC  

You live in the freest society Human Kind has been able to create so far. And you still fear Tyranny 😄

2020-09-22 19:04:30 UTC  

Our constitution is a limitation on the government. We cannot elect people to break our constitution

2020-09-22 19:04:41 UTC  

The amendments are clarifications, not additions

2020-09-22 19:05:24 UTC  

That’s not true

2020-09-22 19:05:34 UTC  

The 13th and 19th are clearly additions

2020-09-22 19:05:42 UTC  

Then it’s a takeover

2020-09-22 19:05:46 UTC  

Oh

2020-09-22 19:06:10 UTC  

I thought you said not true to something else

2020-09-22 19:06:12 UTC  

Cant you change that Constitution after a referendum ?

2020-09-22 19:07:08 UTC  

America is undergoing an obvious takeover. Many will die, it’s just unclear if it will be America that wins

2020-09-22 19:08:28 UTC  

Also yea, women’s right to vote came with no conditions on women even though it always came with conditions on men. Property, military, etc.

Many women of the time were against it, for good reason

2020-09-22 19:09:07 UTC  

A better “clarification” would have been to make it so there are a list of ways you can invest in the nation to be allowed a vote

2020-09-22 19:09:15 UTC  

But we’re way past that now.

2020-09-22 19:09:41 UTC  

Felons cannot vote. Democrats want them too though lol

2020-09-22 19:11:15 UTC  

JP, you regard voting as a right or an obligation ?

2020-09-22 19:12:05 UTC  

A privilege.

2020-09-22 19:12:18 UTC  

Than it's a right.

2020-09-22 19:12:56 UTC  

Because a privilege is a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.

2020-09-22 19:13:28 UTC  

I would regard voting as an obligation.

2020-09-22 19:13:51 UTC  

Obligation to make the nation better and improve it, by periodically changing leaders.

2020-09-22 19:14:42 UTC  

Here is my reasoning:

2020-09-22 19:15:51 UTC  

"I have the right to live in a good and improoving society. Therefore, it is my obligation to vote. By voting, I periodically swap leaders in power to the best available candidate who are closer to my notion of societal well - being"

2020-09-22 19:16:23 UTC  

Obligation by whom? What happens if I don’t vote?

2020-09-22 19:16:50 UTC  

Why is everyone so hell bent of forcing people to do what they would do? Do what you would do. Don’t act immorally. And share the fruit of your labor as you see fit.

2020-09-22 19:17:21 UTC  

Obligation to my community, family, nation, so on.

2020-09-22 19:17:34 UTC  

The world is divided. Some us want to share our own fruit as we see fit, and others of you want to share others’ fruit as you see fit.

2020-09-22 19:17:54 UTC  

Ok so you mean a moral obligation. Sure. I vote. But I don’t feel it’s obligatory

2020-09-22 19:18:12 UTC  

“Moral obligation” is a loose term though.

2020-09-22 19:18:29 UTC  

Communitarian and Generational obligation

2020-09-22 19:18:30 UTC  

I’d say, it’s a good idea to vote, but you don’t have to. Actually you probably shouldn’t if you are ignorant on the issues

2020-09-22 19:19:06 UTC  

How is voting an obligation, voting is ruining the west.

2020-09-22 19:19:12 UTC  

Every right as a corelative obligation.

2020-09-22 19:19:25 UTC  

Most people are stupid and easily manipulated by the media and establishment

2020-09-22 19:19:59 UTC  

You can't have rights without obligations.

2020-09-22 19:19:59 UTC  

Democracy is meaningless and prevents true action from taking place

2020-09-22 19:20:21 UTC  

Just look at how Trump is prevented from doing anything

2020-09-22 19:20:31 UTC  

It's just a waste of time and resources

2020-09-22 19:21:14 UTC  

Taking away voting rights from people who you don't like will worsen society and lead to collapse and war.

2020-09-22 19:21:34 UTC  

Ignorants diserve to be represented.