Message from @Homeschool dropout

Discord ID: 762878566466715669


2020-10-06 03:16:01 UTC  

And do you believe in the Bible?

2020-10-06 03:17:38 UTC  

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2020-10-06 03:18:31 UTC  

Snippets from the answer

2020-10-06 03:19:51 UTC  

Actually @JPMcGlone let’s take this to vc is you don’t mind

2020-10-06 03:22:57 UTC  

only if @kaizen is done with his homework 😉

2020-10-06 03:23:07 UTC  

Yes 😂😂

2020-10-06 03:23:16 UTC  

I’m decompressing

2020-10-06 03:23:24 UTC  

@kaizen is a cool dude

2020-10-06 03:23:35 UTC  

okay solid. 🙂

2020-10-06 03:23:57 UTC  

@m.miller you read that answer ?

2020-10-06 03:24:32 UTC  

@Homeschool dropout i agree with that profoundly.

2020-10-06 03:24:51 UTC  
2020-10-06 03:25:07 UTC  

Thanks dude

2020-10-06 03:25:49 UTC  

Yesterday I was drunk, sorry for those messages on group

2020-10-06 03:26:14 UTC  

It wasn't me, it's the alcohol made me do that

2020-10-06 03:26:30 UTC  

@Homeschool dropout if you act like that when you're drunk, please don't engage on the server when you drink.

2020-10-06 03:26:43 UTC  

I'll never

2020-10-06 03:26:47 UTC  

consider this your warning

2020-10-06 03:26:57 UTC  

Sorry dude

2020-10-06 03:27:02 UTC  

Ali, that’s a good question. Was it a “conscious act”

I’d say yes. “Conscious” isn’t an easy word though.

You are a body made up of many living parts.

Which parts have consciousness?
Do the parts have consciousness? Or the whole (you)?

I’m not saying “the universe is god” or that it’s “god’s body”

God is that which is the source of our universe (and I don’t believe that that’s itself)

God is in the NATURE (character) of the universe, not the universe. Like you are in the nature (character) of your creations, but not of your creations.

2020-10-06 03:27:03 UTC  

I'm being honest

2020-10-06 03:27:23 UTC  

oooooo yes, the mystery of consciousness.

2020-10-06 03:28:22 UTC  

@JPMcGlone can you vc?

2020-10-06 03:28:42 UTC  

@ me when you reply cause I have notis off

2020-10-06 03:30:07 UTC  

Can’t tonight. Add me as a friend though

2020-10-06 03:30:16 UTC  

Alright

2020-10-06 03:30:35 UTC  

I want to grill you on your belief in god sometime soon. 🙂

2020-10-06 03:30:56 UTC  

grill or pick his brain?

2020-10-06 03:31:10 UTC  

By grill I mean pick his brain

2020-10-06 03:31:23 UTC  

Challenge him intellectually to the best of my capability

2020-10-06 03:31:29 UTC  

oh okay lol verrry different concepts.

2020-10-06 03:31:33 UTC  

What I personally think is "consciousness" is
the ocean and i'm a fish swimming in it. The water
is all around me, the medium i move thru. but
the water is flowing in my gills "inside" me all
through me as well.. the ocean is all one. yet i
feel what flows through me as distinct.

2020-10-06 03:31:49 UTC  

Yeah haha probably should’ve been clearer

2020-10-06 03:32:38 UTC  

I understood it as playful

2020-10-06 03:33:08 UTC  

> Ali, that’s a good question. Was it a “conscious act”
>
> I’d say yes. “Conscious” isn’t an easy word though.
>
> You are a body made up of many living parts.
>
> Which parts have consciousness?
> Do the parts have consciousness? Or the whole (you)?
>
> I’m not saying “the universe is god” or that it’s “god’s body”
>
> God is that which is the source of our universe (and I don’t believe that that’s itself)
>
> God is in the NATURE (character) of the universe, not the universe. Like you are in the nature (character) of your creations, but not of your creations.
@JPMcGlone interesting answer. Do you believe in the Bible then?

2020-10-06 03:33:29 UTC  

Consciousness can't be separated, there isn't such thing as your consciousness and my consciousness .

2020-10-06 03:34:28 UTC  

Remember how I’m thinking of god.

I believe the Bible is inspired by that, absolutely.

2020-10-06 03:35:18 UTC  

Well it’s 11:30 and my brain is exhausted so I’m still trying to comprehend your words haha so bare with me

2020-10-06 03:35:23 UTC  

But continue

2020-10-06 03:35:58 UTC  

> Well it’s 11:30 and my brain is exhausted so I’m still trying to comprehend your words haha so bare with me
@kaizen
Man its plain simple dude

2020-10-06 03:36:49 UTC  

I think it’s useful AND also true at some level, that God engages with the universe. We tend to talk about it as though God intervenes at certain moments and not at others. But i think more accurately is: it’s constant. Always present— an analogy: an author and the characters in his book.

From the authors POV, no free will for you. From your POV (as a character in a book) total free will and adventure.

I no longer thing free will and predetermining are incomptible. They’re just incompatible from the perspective of the same entity