only if @kaizen is done with his homework 😉

Yes 😂😂

I’m decompressing

@kaizen is a cool dude

okay solid. 🙂

@m.miller you read that answer ?

@Homeschool dropout i agree with that profoundly.

@Homeschool dropout 😁

Thanks dude

Yesterday I was drunk, sorry for those messages on group

It wasn't me, it's the alcohol made me do that

@Homeschool dropout if you act like that when you're drunk, please don't engage on the server when you drink.

I'll never

consider this your warning

Sorry dude

Ali, that’s a good question. Was it a “conscious act”

I’d say yes. “Conscious” isn’t an easy word though.

You are a body made up of many living parts.

Which parts have consciousness?
Do the parts have consciousness? Or the whole (you)?

I’m not saying “the universe is god” or that it’s “god’s body”

God is that which is the source of our universe (and I don’t believe that that’s itself)

God is in the NATURE (character) of the universe, not the universe. Like you are in the nature (character) of your creations, but not of your creations.

I'm being honest

oooooo yes, the mystery of consciousness.

@JPMcGlone can you vc?

@ me when you reply cause I have notis off

Can’t tonight. Add me as a friend though

Alright

I want to grill you on your belief in god sometime soon. 🙂

grill or pick his brain?

By grill I mean pick his brain

Challenge him intellectually to the best of my capability

oh okay lol verrry different concepts.

What I personally think is "consciousness" is
the ocean and i'm a fish swimming in it. The water
is all around me, the medium i move thru. but
the water is flowing in my gills "inside" me all
through me as well.. the ocean is all one. yet i
feel what flows through me as distinct.

Yeah haha probably should’ve been clearer

I understood it as playful

> Ali, that’s a good question. Was it a “conscious act”
>
> I’d say yes. “Conscious” isn’t an easy word though.
>
> You are a body made up of many living parts.
>
> Which parts have consciousness?
> Do the parts have consciousness? Or the whole (you)?
>
> I’m not saying “the universe is god” or that it’s “god’s body”
>
> God is that which is the source of our universe (and I don’t believe that that’s itself)
>
> God is in the NATURE (character) of the universe, not the universe. Like you are in the nature (character) of your creations, but not of your creations.
@JPMcGlone interesting answer. Do you believe in the Bible then?

Consciousness can't be separated, there isn't such thing as your consciousness and my consciousness .

Remember how I’m thinking of god.

I believe the Bible is inspired by that, absolutely.

Well it’s 11:30 and my brain is exhausted so I’m still trying to comprehend your words haha so bare with me

But continue

> Well it’s 11:30 and my brain is exhausted so I’m still trying to comprehend your words haha so bare with me
@kaizen
Man its plain simple dude

I think it’s useful AND also true at some level, that God engages with the universe. We tend to talk about it as though God intervenes at certain moments and not at others. But i think more accurately is: it’s constant. Always present— an analogy: an author and the characters in his book.

From the authors POV, no free will for you. From your POV (as a character in a book) total free will and adventure.

I no longer thing free will and predetermining are incomptible. They’re just incompatible from the perspective of the same entity

Probably is but I have a hard time comprehending what I read because I’m not a native English speaker> @kaizen
> Man its plain simple dude
@Homeschool dropout

Even Sam Harris would say we should act as though we have free will, implying that it offers an advantage for you (or your brain)

I think it’s impossible to act as if you don’t have free will

Since the illusion is so strong