Message from @JPMcGlone
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Yes šš
Iām decompressing
@kaizen is a cool dude
okay solid. š
@m.miller you read that answer ?
@Homeschool dropout i agree with that profoundly.
@Homeschool dropout š
Thanks dude
Yesterday I was drunk, sorry for those messages on group
It wasn't me, it's the alcohol made me do that
@Homeschool dropout if you act like that when you're drunk, please don't engage on the server when you drink.
I'll never
consider this your warning
Sorry dude
Ali, thatās a good question. Was it a āconscious actā
Iād say yes. āConsciousā isnāt an easy word though.
You are a body made up of many living parts.
Which parts have consciousness?
Do the parts have consciousness? Or the whole (you)?
Iām not saying āthe universe is godā or that itās āgodās bodyā
God is that which is the source of our universe (and I donāt believe that thatās itself)
God is in the NATURE (character) of the universe, not the universe. Like you are in the nature (character) of your creations, but not of your creations.
I'm being honest
oooooo yes, the mystery of consciousness.
@JPMcGlone can you vc?
@ me when you reply cause I have notis off
Alright
I want to grill you on your belief in god sometime soon. š
grill or pick his brain?
By grill I mean pick his brain
Challenge him intellectually to the best of my capability
oh okay lol verrry different concepts.
What I personally think is "consciousness" is
the ocean and i'm a fish swimming in it. The water
is all around me, the medium i move thru. but
the water is flowing in my gills "inside" me all
through me as well.. the ocean is all one. yet i
feel what flows through me as distinct.
Yeah haha probably shouldāve been clearer
I understood it as playful
> Ali, thatās a good question. Was it a āconscious actā
>
> Iād say yes. āConsciousā isnāt an easy word though.
>
> You are a body made up of many living parts.
>
> Which parts have consciousness?
> Do the parts have consciousness? Or the whole (you)?
>
> Iām not saying āthe universe is godā or that itās āgodās bodyā
>
> God is that which is the source of our universe (and I donāt believe that thatās itself)
>
> God is in the NATURE (character) of the universe, not the universe. Like you are in the nature (character) of your creations, but not of your creations.
@JPMcGlone interesting answer. Do you believe in the Bible then?
Consciousness can't be separated, there isn't such thing as your consciousness and my consciousness .
Remember how Iām thinking of god.
I believe the Bible is inspired by that, absolutely.
Well itās 11:30 and my brain is exhausted so Iām still trying to comprehend your words haha so bare with me
But continue
> Well itās 11:30 and my brain is exhausted so Iām still trying to comprehend your words haha so bare with me
@kaizen
Man its plain simple dude
I think itās useful AND also true at some level, that God engages with the universe. We tend to talk about it as though God intervenes at certain moments and not at others. But i think more accurately is: itās constant. Always presentā an analogy: an author and the characters in his book.
From the authors POV, no free will for you. From your POV (as a character in a book) total free will and adventure.
I no longer thing free will and predetermining are incomptible. Theyāre just incompatible from the perspective of the same entity
Probably is but I have a hard time comprehending what I read because Iām not a native English speaker> @kaizen
> Man its plain simple dude
@Homeschool dropout
Even Sam Harris would say we should act as though we have free will, implying that it offers an advantage for you (or your brain)
I think itās impossible to act as if you donāt have free will
Since the illusion is so strong