Message from @Delta

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2020-07-22 19:08:29 UTC  

I’d imagine

2020-07-22 19:08:31 UTC  

But nice

2020-07-22 19:37:40 UTC  

Is there anyone here that argues for circumcision?

2020-07-22 21:05:29 UTC  

Well

2020-07-22 21:06:19 UTC  

I need to do more r search on the topic. I’d Be against circumcision if it can be demonstrated as a harmful.

2020-07-22 21:07:48 UTC  

The act itself is harmful

2020-07-22 21:08:25 UTC  

I mean it clearly would be painful at a minimum

2020-07-22 21:09:00 UTC  

How about pierced ears

2020-07-22 21:09:05 UTC  

Of young kids?

2020-07-22 21:09:11 UTC  

Subjective

2020-07-22 21:09:21 UTC  

(I’m playing devils advocate for the record I’m not really decided on this yet)

2020-07-22 21:09:25 UTC  

Of young kids no way!

2020-07-22 21:10:02 UTC  

Why not? Is it just the pain factor?

2020-07-22 21:10:16 UTC  

Because I’m not sure how pierced ear really affect well being

2020-07-22 21:10:33 UTC  

Well it hurts isn't that enough

2020-07-22 21:10:42 UTC  

I had it done as a 10 Yr old through medical .....not religious reasons! It was successful

2020-07-22 21:10:58 UTC  

No

2020-07-22 21:11:00 UTC  

Circumcision has been shown to increase chance of HIV but decrease HPV and Herpes. I’d rather have the latter

2020-07-22 21:11:22 UTC  

Spanking hurts too

2020-07-22 21:11:37 UTC  

And should not be done imo

2020-07-22 21:11:38 UTC  

Yeah my only qualm is that I’ve seen conflicting data on health benefits and risks

2020-07-22 21:11:59 UTC  

If that data wasn’t conflicting I wouldn’t be arguing atm

2020-07-22 21:12:17 UTC  

I cant believe you are unsure about cutting baby dicks seems like a no brainer to me

2020-07-22 21:14:57 UTC  

We cut umbilical cords too

2020-07-22 21:15:09 UTC  

Those are meant to come off

2020-07-22 21:15:20 UTC  

Not the same at all

2020-07-22 21:15:24 UTC  

If it’s demonstrated to be harmful I got no problem

2020-07-22 21:15:27 UTC  

That all

2020-07-22 21:15:41 UTC  

The cord cut don't hurt and is necessary

2020-07-22 21:15:59 UTC  

It hurts thats all you need

2020-07-22 21:17:13 UTC  

So a parent is never allowed to cause their child any pain for any reason

2020-07-22 21:17:16 UTC  

The umbilicus doesn’t have pain receptors that lead to the child as far as I know, otherwise every time they kick it in the womb they’d be like “ouchies”

2020-07-22 21:17:19 UTC  

What about vaccine shots?

2020-07-22 21:17:48 UTC  

Vaccines are not an amputation

2020-07-22 21:18:07 UTC  

I’m referring specifically to wardawgs argument about causing pain

2020-07-22 21:19:41 UTC  

Robert Baker estimated 229 deaths per year from circumcision in the United States. Bollinger estimated that approximately 119 infant boys die from circumcision-related each year in the U.S. (1.3% of all male neonatal deaths from all causes). There are several case reports of death in the medical literature.

2020-07-22 21:20:15 UTC  

But that is due to botched surgeries right? Not procedures successfully carried out right?

2020-07-22 21:20:36 UTC  

I’m mostly concerned about STD and hygiene stuff

2020-07-22 21:20:49 UTC  

But is potentially killing your child worth the benefits we aren’t sure even exist?

2020-07-22 21:21:21 UTC  

You potentially kill ur child whenever u decide to take an airplane ride

2020-07-22 21:21:35 UTC  

I thought I just said there were some benefits?